Your pride alone holds you here. You seem to have a need to get the last word in, but know that I know how to quote posts even after threads are closed, and so yours will not be the last. Save face and give up that battle now while you have some face to save. There are no natural rights, there never were. Yes this means you were lied to. Yes this mean the entire United States is a fraud. But just because the Titanic is sinking doesn't mean you can't be a survivor.