View Poll Results: Do You Believe in Natural Rights?

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You don't understand the concept of evidence.
    Ok, so who possesses and controls your body besides you? This should be fun..

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Man didn't think up any of those things, but he did think up rights, like I said.
    did man think them up, or did man simply recognize them through reflection on the human condition?

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    That never happened. Rights are immaterial. Nature is material. Rights were invented, not discovered.
    [citation needed]

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    We will just have to agree to disagree I guess. Because I agree with the Founders 100% when it come to the concept of natural rights.
    No, I don't think you do. They weren't equating rights to physical laws or anything like that. They were saying that rights don't come from kings. They were advocating a better society, not magic.
    Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No, I don't think you do. They weren't equating rights to physical laws or anything like that. They were saying that rights don't come from kings. They were advocating a better society, not magic.
    Actually, many of the founders did in fact believe in natural rights and were in fact advocating they be supported by the new government. Saying something like the man that finds the acorn in the woods has a rightful claim to it is advocating an ethical principle. Why would anyone else have a rightful claim to it? Because they want it?

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Ask an actual slave if he disagrees with that sentiment.
    I'd be willing to wager that actual slaves had a very real problem with being slaves.....even those whom were utterly uneducated and totally ignorant of any theory of rights probably had the distinct feeling of being treated contrary to what they felt they were entitled to.

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ok, so who possesses and controls your body besides you? This should be fun..
    Again, I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right. Get to work.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No, I don't think you do. They weren't equating rights to physical laws or anything like that. They were saying that rights don't come from kings. They were advocating a better society, not magic.
    and yet they based the US Constitution .. Supreme law of the land.. on certain natural rights (as well as legal rights)

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Again, I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right. Get to work.
    Just answer the question.

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Just answer the question.
    When you do.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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