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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    why do you jump into things, which do not concern you and act as if you are king over them?
    Where do you get off acting as though you can decide who can participating if their participation is proper or not?
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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I'm not Jerry, but you aren't stating his position accurately. He says he understands what inalienable means and he has posted the definition. And then he proceeds to argue something other than that definition. He has argued that if somebody is prevented from exercising his/her inalienable rights, then such rights do not exist. Then of course it would logically follow that if somebody is not allowed to spend a dollar as he intends to spend it, then that dollar does not exist.

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Where do you get off acting as though you can decide who can participating if their participation is proper or not?
    why do you get involved in a conversation which ,you were not part of ?.....and proceed to dictate.


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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    why do you get involved in a conversation which ,you were not part of ?.....and proceed to dictate.
    Everyone who wants to participate in a thread is free to do so and is thus part of that conversation as it is all public and open to all. If you want a PRIVATE conversation with another poster, the board has a PM service they provide. If you do not know how to use it I will be happy to guide you through.
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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Do you understand now?
    Not really. But I'm curious to see how he responds, because depending on what he says I have some questions for him.
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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In your post you were insulting and disparaging of persons you call STATISTS. So you do not believe in the necessity of the state then Turtle? You reject the state and the government necessary because you have converted to anarchy?
    as opposed to say you calling anyone who supports the 2A "extremist right wing" etc

    anarchy has nothing to do with this matter
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as opposed to say you calling anyone who supports the 2A "extremist right wing" etc

    anarchy has nothing to do with this matter
    that is a blatant falsehood. I only refer to right wing extremists as right wing extremists and support for the Second Amendment is NOT part of that determination since I also support the Second Amendment as written.

    You should keep in mind that you support necessity of a state the next time you insult somebody else here by calling them a statist.
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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that is a blatant falsehood. I only refer to right wing extremists as right wing extremists and support for the Second Amendment is NOT part of that determination since I also support the Second Amendment as written.

    You should keep in mind that you support necessity of a state the next time you insult somebody else here by calling them a statist.
    you don't support the 2A as written

    you pretend that the term "shall not be infringed" does not apply to individuals. You then claimed that anything short of a total ban of all guns is not an infringement. You also claimed that if someone can own ONE gun, then their ability to ENJOY their 2A rights cannot be infringed. Later, you claimed that the founders actually wrote this provision with the INTENT that the federal government could limit restrict or impede ownership.

    so I reject your specious claim that you support the 2A AS WRITTEN
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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Everyone who wants to participate in a thread is free to do so and is thus part of that conversation as it is all public and open to all. If you want a PRIVATE conversation with another poster, the board has a PM service they provide. If you do not know how to use it I will be happy to guide you through.
    you jumped into a conversation and then complained about what i was addressing to another person, which he and i were discussing.

    you jumped as if i was making a general statement, which i was addressing something he said to me.


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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you don't support the 2A as written

    you pretend that the term "shall not be infringed" does not apply to individuals. You then claimed that anything short of a total ban of all guns is not an infringement. You also claimed that if someone can own ONE gun, then their ability to ENJOY their 2A rights cannot be infringed. Later, you claimed that the founders actually wrote this provision with the INTENT that the federal government could limit restrict or impede ownership.

    so I reject your specious claim that you support the 2A AS WRITTEN
    And you ignore the militia part

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