Nature does not grant people rights, it grants people abilities. People are arguing that because nature grants me the ability to breathe, eat, sleep, think, poop, etc that I have a right too. Nature grants me the ability to kill everyone and everything, that does not make it my right.
If I get stung in the neck by a bee, and I lose my ability to breathe, is the bee taking away my right to breathe or just the ability?
So your point fails completely as its based on a totally false premise.
I realize that the issue of the Second Amendment is your pet issue and you are obsessed with it. However, this is NOT a gun thread nor a discussion about rights associated with guns.BTW he didn't' write the 2nd Amendment or the bill of rights so all this silly diversion over slavery and the DOI is dilatory nonsense
The fact is that the Constitution is a very practical document and it does NOT contain the very clear statement about natural rights that the Declaration contains. Thus, any intelligent discussion about the Founders and natural rights has to center on their clearest statement which is the Declaration - not the Constitution.
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talk about a specious jump and a bogus attempt to limit what our constitutional rights are
There are 154 constitutions in the world. Each of them specify different rights that belong to the people. You have no right to bear arms in England, nor in Australia, natural or otherwise. Not only is the right not 'inalienable', it doesn't exist full stop. If these rights are natural, why are they dependent on national lines which are clearly artificial?
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