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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Especially since what you posted doesn't parse into English. Do try again and ask what you want to know in a clear and concise manner. And don't post drunk, that's always helpful.
    well, there you are folks...nothing, nothing..i constantly hear rights are created by government by man..yet when proof is asked for...none is given!

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The text of the Constitution won't change your bizarre and unclear posting style.
    sorry but it does if you read, you will find privileges in the body of the constitution, and then rights recognized by government in the bill of rights.

    rights are natural rights

    privileges are created by government

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry but it does if you read, you will find privileges in the body of the constitution, and then rights recognized by government in the bill of rights.

    rights are natural rights

    privileges are created by government
    Some people have no clue how to carry out an intellectual debate, they just keep repeating the same thing over and over again without realizing that they have to actually back up their statements with evidence. No wonder libertarians are so laughable.
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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry but it does if you read, you will find privileges in the body of the constitution, and then rights recognized by government in the bill of rights.

    rights are natural rights

    privileges are created by government
    why does this semantical hoop even matter?

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Some people have no clue how to carry out an intellectual debate, they just keep repeating the same thing over and over again without realizing that they have to actually back up their statements with evidence. No wonder libertarians are so laughable.
    oh..lets see..you have stated everything i have said to be wrong, AND THEN you have talked about me.

    when asked to show proof of what you are saying, you continue to not produce anything, but continue to say i am wrong.....so you need come up with something fast because your case it dead.
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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    why does this semantical hoop even matter?
    rights do not require an action from government, but only that government stand back and the rights exercised

    privileges require government action, government must do something for the privileges to be exercised.

    since government must perform an action for you to have a privilege, then government has power to determine if you will have the privilege or not.

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    rights do not require an action from government, but only that government stand back and the rights exercised

    privileges require government action, government must do something for the privileges to be exercised.

    since government must perform an action for you to have a privilege, then government has power to determine if you will have the privilege or not.
    right to vote, yawn

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    right to vote, yawn
    to the founders voting is a privilege.....as stated by the constitution.

    the USSC took voting out of state constitutions, recognizing it as a right......but in reality its not because a government action must be performed for voting to take place.

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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    to the founders voting is a privilege.....as stated by the constitution.

    the USSC took voting out of state constitutions, recognizing it as a right......but in reality its not because a government action must be performed for voting to take place.
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    Re: Do You Believe In Natural Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    to the founders voting is a privilege.....as stated by the constitution.

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    Then they were wrong.

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