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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Since when?

    Compare the economy under Obama with the economy under George W. Bush.

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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    Compare the economy under Obama with the economy under George W. Bush.
    At what point? Do you remember who was president when the housing bubble popped and the economy cratered?

    (NOTE: I'm of the opinion that "what party the President belongs to" is pretty low on the list when it comes to reasons for the health of the economy.)
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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    As a right-leaning political scientist I think Hillary is smarter than Jeb Bush. (She's out-earned him and arguably the only reason Bill+her are rich is because she wisely saved their sham marriage in a calculating move). Jeb Bush strikes me as the quintessential "in the right spot" candidate. Truth be told Hillary, like her or not, is a viscous trench fighter. She'd basically have to be to keep a serial lecher like Bill from complete collapse over the years.

    Jeb Bush strikes me as a weak man. He just does. He seems to have lived a very sheltered, liberal esq Miami Hispanic esq lifestyle that in the end while it may get a lot of nice things said about him among Hispanics they're still gong to vote Democrat due to economic reasons. Jeb Bush is going to be stuck having infuriated and ridiculed the GOP far right base and Hillary will have the Left in full force forcing Jeb Bush to legalize immigrants which will absolutely end him on election day with his white GOP base. That's how it will go down I suspect. Primarily because I don't see how Jeb Bush can, with his Hispanic family situation, "Swing right and make his grand swing right believable to himself let alone anyone else". IF Jeb Bush cannot make a believable swing right, as Romney could not, then he will lose to the believable Leftist, Hillary.

    That is why Romney lost. He wasn't a believable conservative. You just knew something was off. Jeb Bush strikes me as the same way hearing him talk on immigration, on Iraq. Maybe he has it in him but so far I don't see it.
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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    Compare the economy under Obama with the economy under George W. Bush.
    sure thing
    https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/GDP/

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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    Jeb Bush faces the modern dilemma of all US political class conservatives. He's of the upper class social liberal class of US society just as Romney and such people aren't (usually) good at pretending to be middle class conservative heroes as they claim. The dismal truth is they're often more liberal than your average middle class liberal.

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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    I'm still convinced Walker will be the GOP's nominee. He's just as much of a so called "RINO" as Jeb, though for some reason he gets a pass from the conservative base...at least right now.

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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    As a right-leaning political scientist I think Hillary is smarter than Jeb Bush. (She's out-earned him and arguably the only reason Bill+her are rich is because she wisely saved their sham marriage in a calculating move). Jeb Bush strikes me as the quintessential "in the right spot" candidate. Truth be told Hillary, like her or not, is a viscous trench fighter. She'd basically have to be to keep a serial lecher like Bill from complete collapse over the years.

    Jeb Bush strikes me as a weak man. He just does. He seems to have lived a very sheltered, liberal esq Miami Hispanic esq lifestyle that in the end while it may get a lot of nice things said about him among Hispanics they're still gong to vote Democrat due to economic reasons. Jeb Bush is going to be stuck having infuriated and ridiculed the GOP far right base and Hillary will have the Left in full force forcing Jeb Bush to legalize immigrants which will absolutely end him on election day with his white GOP base. That's how it will go down I suspect. Primarily because I don't see how Jeb Bush can, with his Hispanic family situation, "Swing right and make his grand swing right believable to himself let alone anyone else". IF Jeb Bush cannot make a believable swing right, as Romney could not, then he will lose to the believable Leftist, Hillary.

    That is why Romney lost. He wasn't a believable conservative. You just knew something was off. Jeb Bush strikes me as the same way hearing him talk on immigration, on Iraq. Maybe he has it in him but so far I don't see it.
    Romney did fine amongst conservatives. The myth that they stayed home is a joke. Karl Rove: The Myth of the Stay-at-Home Republicans - WSJ

    With all of this talk about "Obama destroying America", and "Obama hates white people", did you really think conservatives were going to stay home and let him ride his way to an easy victory? Nah.

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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Since when?
    That's the question I'm asking. History refutes his assertion of "Republicans in the white house is much better for the economy".

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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Puigb View Post
    Romney did fine amongst conservatives. The myth that they stayed home is a joke. Karl Rove: The Myth of the Stay-at-Home Republicans - WSJ

    With all of this talk about "Obama destroying America", and "Obama hates white people", did you really think conservatives were going to stay home and let him ride his way to an easy victory? Nah.
    Will you please stop with race baiting?

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    Re: 2016: Bush vs Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by ConsvLiberal View Post
    It will be a competition between two dynasties in the United States. It will be very interesting, so, which one is your favorite?
    We already had a Clinton vs Bush election. We don't need another.
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