View Poll Results: US Political Has Improved/Will Improve?

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  • Has Improved/Will Improve

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Thread: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    I voted Has improved/Will improve but it wasn't an easy choice because I feel differently about the different criteria you mention.

    For example, in my lifetime, I feel as though the way in which the US is governed has gotten worse. Our government has become more authoritarian, more intrusive, and more beholden to corporate interests. However, I feel the political ideology of the citizenry, in general, has improved.

    I believe the application of the law and justice has improved or stayed about the same. I do think those with power, while still underserved by the justice system, are being treated more fairly than they used to.

    Voting and representation has gotten worse. The richer the uber wealthy and corporations become the more influence they have. Politicians care more about dollars than votes because dollars buy votes. Over 90% of non-Presidential elections are won by the candidate who spent the most money, and much of that money doesn't even come from the candidate's constituents.

    So as to whether or not it HAS improved my personal scale, slightly, leaned toward yes.

    I also voted I think it WILL improve. Why? Because I believe that within the next decade or two the States will call a Constitutional Convention to pass an amendment to get money out of politics. Several states have already officially called for it. This will allow us to completely bypass the US Congress, who is already too far in the pockets of special interests to take the initiative. Once that happens politicians will have to earn votes the old fashioned way, by being responsive to their constituents. And since I believe the political inclinations of the people is slowly but steadily improving, their untainted (or less tainted) votes will lead to an improving in the government as well.
    Why wouldnt the states just stop electing the same politicians?

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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?
    for it to get better, we'd have to end gerrymandering, reconsider our duopoly system, and tightly control lobbying. none of these things will happen in my lifetime, so i don't think the political system is going to improve.

    some other things might improve, though. gay people being treated like human beings has progressed faster than i ever would have predicted. also, the drug warriors are losing ground pretty fast, at least where pot is concerned. my state will probably be one of the last to wake the **** up, but i guess i could always move. also, i hope to see a time when the US isn't expected to get involved in every conflict on the planet for free. i find it unlikely that our foreign policy will change quickly, though.

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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Governments are formed to protect my right and ability to pursue happiness, so yeah.
    While government is intended to maintain social structures which allow people to achieve their goals, success and happiness are personal responsibilities, not something granted to individuals by government fiat. So, no.
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    While government is intended to maintain social structures which allow people to achieve their goals, success and happiness are personal responsibilities, not something granted to individuals by government fiat. So, no.
    So yes, you agree they are linked. And THIS govt is infringing on that pursuit, not assisting.

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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Thats the political elite though, not citizens. Their goal is to get elected, not to work.

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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Thats the political elite though, not citizens. Their goal is to get elected, not to work.
    The political elites ate elected by the rest of us. If the population wasn't getting further polarized, the elected officials wouldn't be as polarized.
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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    It has gotten worse and will continue to do so. Republocrat rule will steal the Republic out from underneath us.
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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    It's gotten worse imo. Whether it will get better or worse is anyone's guess.
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    Re: US Political Situation Better or Worse in your Lifetime?

    On the positive side people are less bigoted and more skeptical about getting into wars, even conservatives.

    On the negative side, the elites have more influence as election campaigns get more expenses. Also, people on the right don't just have their own opinions, they have their own "facts," thanks to Fox News and the internet.

    Media ownership is more concentrated than ever, but the internet has made alternatives accessible to all. The problem is that it is harder for many people to judge the credibility of news/information providers.

    Another positive: As evidenced by the failure of the Keystone pipeline, the protection of net neutrality, the resistance to the Comcast/Time Warner merger and the greater awareness of police abuses, grass roots campaigns are working.

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