View Poll Results: Civilized war or WAR!?

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  • Civilized war in which you spare innocent civilians as much as possible

    8 42.11%
  • WAR! in which you exterminate anything that gets in your way

    11 57.89%
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    Re: Civilized war or WAR?

    The situation you're describing is akin to two tribes living in a territory with enough fresh water for only one of them.
    The options are clear. Either one tribe dies or the other one dies.

    The other side will die together with all of its civilians regardless of whether you'll target them or not as long as you do not die, because this would mean they have no fresh water, so it seems pointless to avoid it.

    I would however avoid targeting civilians since the side that lives on needs to live with its actions after all is done and settled, and I see no advantage at all to be gained from targeting the civilian population of the other side. The war will be settled by the last soldier standing not by the last innocent baby or innocent old man standing.
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    Re: Civilized war or WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So if someone invades the US do you think that diplomacy will get all the bad guys out? Sometimes you just have to fight. Whether you like it or not.
    Sometimes.
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    Re: Civilized war or WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sometimes.
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    Re: Civilized war or WAR?

    I believe that the term "civilized war" is an oxymoron. Sherman proved that total war succeeds. Vietnam proved that anything less is a mistake.

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    Re: Civilized war or WAR?

    if there is no other alternative other than war, then the gloves come off

    the idea is to WIN

    there is no prize given for being the nice winner

    use every advantage you can use

    sometimes wars on won by decimating the psyche of the enemy.....

    no mercy can or should be shown
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    Re: Civilized war or WAR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Lets go to a galaxy far far away....Yeah, geeky and cheesy I know but hey, its going to get cheesier.

    In this galaxy you have two factions that are warring against each other. The Light side and the Dark side. But don't let the names fool you. On both sides there are normal, every day people that essentially believe the exact same things and believe in doing what is Right and True. Neither side is religious. Both sides have equal rights for everyone. There is no racial discrimination. The only reason for the war is resources. Lets say....water. That particular galaxy is low on water. Which they of course need to survive. In between these two factions territories is a band of worlds that is chalk full of fresh water. Both sides have mutually agreed, before the war started, to not even come with in 50 light years of those planets until there is a victor in their war to see who gets the water. (for those that love semantics, they travel to different planets via directed wormhole technology which gets them from point A to point B of their choosing in a matter of seconds..but it only works inside their galaxy due to a highly radiation and magnetic bubble that wraps their entire galaxy and collapses worm holes that attempt to go beyond it)

    If you were in charge of one of these factions how would you conduct your war?

    Civilized war in which you spare innocent civilians as much as possible?

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    WAR! in which you exterminate anything that gets in your way?

    Remember, the survival of your faction means winning the war in order to get that precious water. If you lose, your faction gets none of that water. The poll choices are your only options. There is no middle ground. No haggling. No diplomacy available as both factions refuse to come to the negotiation table, or even talk to each other for that matter as the war has started. In fact any attempt to contact or talk to the other side will get you summarily executed right on the spot. Cameras which you have no control over and cannot destroy as it would mean instant death for you are always on you...even in the bathroom, no privacy what so ever. You agreed to it when you became the leader as you want your people to trust you. Only a select group of people are able to watch and see what is going on via those cameras. People you will never have contact with as you know not who they are or how to get ahold of them. This is of course to preserve military tactics. IE: cameras are not broadcast to the public, only those select people. You also have no idea where the leader of the other faction is, just like they have no idea where you are at. You are both as secure as secure can be from any type of spying.

    Hopefully I've covered all the bases here. What is your choice?
    I don't like the answer I am about to give, and I would prefer that it were otherwise, but I believe it is practical reality.

    I would not "exterminate anything that gets in my way", but I would not necessarily spare civilians, either. For good or for bad, warfare has evolved to include civilians. Our resoluteness to include civilians in WW2 helped us win that war, and probably made it quicker. Our unwillingness to include civilians has hampered us in every war since, and is a part of why we have never truly won any of them.

    If we're not willing to do what it takes, then we shouldn't even be doing it. At that point we're just tossing our people out there as fodder for a big political chess game.
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