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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Not in any meaningful way.
    To be fair, your short declarations haven't been meaningful, either. Simply saying so does not make it so. Some deeper substance would be helpful.
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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    (And everything you said after that.)

    Let me know when you have something relevant to say.
    What, you mean like how it is also a pretty good-sized foreign policy victory, reducing the ability of China to turn SEAsia into the new East Asia Co Prosperity Sphere? Or how the patent protections benefit the US? Or how the source you cited is a conspiracist nutter site currently tying their panties in a wad about Jade Helm?

    I think I did, in fact, mention all that.
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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    googles attorneys have issues with the patent protection clauses, but what's really problematic is that advocacy groups for American workers and labor unions don't have near enough input. It would be nice to see that addressed.
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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Free trade enriches all participants, and any job lost after NAFTA was enacted likely was doomed anyway.
    Yea just ask these people:






    Look at the enrichment!
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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post

    Im sure close to a $170 billion trade deficit is a good thing!
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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Why all the fuss over these trade deals?


    Wouldn't it just be so much simpler to just say....hey, here's what I have for sale, what have you got? Why do we need a deal, a law, to say something as simple as, "OK, let's buy and sell stuff to these people."
    it not that simple, some countries want the ability to sell their goods on a large u.s. market, yet do not want u.s. goods sold on their smaller market.....among other things

    this is nothing new...under the articles of confederation, states were warring with each other over commerce...been going on for a very long time.


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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Im sure close to a $170 billion trade deficit is a good thing!
    .... you know that a trade deficit is when we convince others to give us televisions, food, automobiles, and the like in return for little pieces of green paper, yes?
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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    .... you know that a trade deficit is when we convince others to give us televisions, food, automobiles, and the like in return for little pieces of green paper, yes?
    Yayyy! Chinese TV's!
    But, thats not my point...
    Results of trade deficit: massive job outsourcing, and less exports to the countries we are trading with. I thought NAFTA was supposed to lessen our trade deficit and increase exports? Opposite occurred.
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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yayyy! Chinese TV's!
    But, thats not my point...
    Results of trade deficit: massive job outsourcing, and less exports to the countries we are trading with. I thought NAFTA was supposed to lessen our trade deficit and increase exports? Opposite occurred.
    This is true. And worse, in early 2008, Obama told us this, ďOne of the first things Iíll do as President will be to call the Prime Minister of Canada and the President of Mexico and work with them to fix NAFTA". And I doubt he ever even made those phone calls, let alone actually "fixed" NAFTA. Now, with plenty of republican fanfare, he wants to fast track another trade deal, with plenty of opposition from his own party. This is problematic.
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    Re: For or against the Trans-Pacific Trade Agreement?

    Holy hell cpwill has been crushing it.

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