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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I'd like to agree with that but esp. in cases like NYC and New York state, that wont work. The poverty-stricken inner city populations...and those affected by them....have much higher numbers proportionally to the rest of the state.
    If lots of net taxpayers were to move, NY would have to be less generous to the public teat suckers
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Yes, handouts by their very nature are harmful to all, but ESPECIALLY HARMFUL TO THE PERSON RECEIVING THE HANDOUT.
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    The single most important thing to do continuously is to strive for the re-building of human dignity .. Most poor have this not , IMO ..
    I note that we have misanthropes here (haters of their fellow man) .. at least , that is the impression I receive from the Turtle and others ..
    These people can emote a lot but contribute nothing of value .
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The single most important thing to do continuously is to strive for the re-building of human dignity .. Most poor have this not , IMO ..
    I note that we have misanthropes here (haters of their fellow man) .. at least , that is the impression I receive from the Turtle and others ..
    These people can emote a lot but contribute nothing of value .
    Love is necessary .
    Love is giving handouts?

    Whatever.
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    All too often welfare is about politicians buying "love" for themselves by handing out the taxpayers' money.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    We have a cultural problem in America, particularly inner city, with people living on public money and not being productive members of society.

    Part of the problem is that underclass inner city women begin having babies at age 15. They continue to have babies, with different men, until they have had five or six. These women do not go to school. They do not work. They are not ashamed to live on public money. They plan their entire lives around the expectation that they will always get free money and never have to work.

    The inner city men who are part of the problem also do not work. They get social security disability payments for a mental defect or for a vague and invisible physical ailment. They do not pay for anything: not for housing (Grandma lives on welfare and he lives with her), not for food (Grandma and the baby-momma share with him), and not for child support.

    I once asked a 19 year old with no job and no schooling from the inner city, "What do you do all day?”

    “You know, just chill.” These men live in a culture with no expectations, no demands, and no shame.

    Should we change that? Should we get rid of the handouts and end welfare?

    Nothing wrong with the old soup kitchen. I don't believe in letting people starve, but let's get rid of food stamps, welfare payments, and other bs government giveaways.

    Let's make these people learn personal responsibility

    Interesting that you only single out the inner city welfare recipients.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The single most important thing to do continuously is to strive for the re-building of human dignity .. Most poor have this not , IMO ..
    I note that we have misanthropes here (haters of their fellow man) .. at least , that is the impression I receive from the Turtle and others ..
    These people can emote a lot but contribute nothing of value .
    Love is necessary .
    Agreed. But it is important to note that love does not mean enabling. If you love someone then you will push them to stop making self-destructive decisions, and be willing for them to suffer in order to improve.
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If lots of net taxpayers were to move, NY would have to be less generous to the public teat suckers
    Its this attitude which is a primary cause of the problem !
    Unless we have an internet "test bot" here, I know of no solution , a good solution ..
    Or, is it only the love from Jesus ?

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    YES, it is ... I think this exposes the hate, the misanthropes ..
    The liberals, the progressives must take charge here and come up with solutions ...

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    I'm still waiting for somebody to explain to me what is "progressive" about bankrupting a country.

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