View Poll Results: Should we get rid of welfare?

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Because then there would be no books, computers or teachers... am I missing something or is your counter point 100% bizarre.
    Oh, you're missing a lot alright.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what he said

    and it should be a state power not federal
    And how about corporate welfare?
    The kind Sen. Coburn tried to get rid of with his Back-in-Black plan in 2011.

    And means-testing for public pensioners who already have far more than they'll ever need.
    Tell me they need COLA--low-hanging fruit--each year.
    If Congressman Ryan couldn't do COLA cut-back in December of 2013, who can ?
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    That is one of the toughest and oldest creatures on this planet. Here's a cuter picture:
    Thanks... I just grossed out some female teachers and students!!
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    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Oh, you're missing a lot alright.
    Great debate style Kerri!
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And how about corporate welfare?
    The kind Sen. Coburn tried to get rid of with his Back-in-Black plan in 2011.

    And means-testing for public pensioners who already have far more than they'll ever need.
    Tell me they need COLA--low-hanging fruit--each year.
    If Congressman Ryan couldn't do COLA cut-back in December of 2013, who can ?
    corporate welfare is often a dishonest term because its often a quid pro quo

    real welfare-the quid pro quo is buying votes



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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    That is one of the toughest and oldest creatures on this planet. Here's a cuter picture:
    WTF is that thing?



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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I've found it difficult to convince states much of anything to pick up on their own. In a severely conservative state, getting them to follow federal law is difficult by itself, and even harder to follow their own mandates. For one thing, their revenue is often not enough. Second, they may not want to do anything at all.
    And then where is the federal getting the money? From the states, the people? Stop that for anything that isn't a direct federal grant of power and perhaps the states would have the funding. But really, most states already do have their own welfare programs. The ones that decide not to, that's up to their people to decide, as I should be.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Great debate style Kerri!
    I kid, I kid. But seriously, I think you are totally wrong when you say funding doesn't matter.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think we need to move towards a negative income tax, which would still need a good design, but would do a good deed in reducing bureaucracy.
    I proposed just such a platform over in the Loft.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Outside of urban centers, distribution will cost a lot of that trillion dollars. The majority of those who need food stamps do not live in urban centers. The urban poor are merely a very conspicuous example, given the contrast to the wealth that most of the rest of a city enjoys. And, of course, they usually aren't white, while the rural poor usually are. We both know that these two groups are not discussed in the same way.
    How does it cost more to electronically deposit an account whose owner is in Oklahoma v one whose owner is in Detroit?

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