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Thread: Should we end welfare?

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    I'm onboard with doing away with federal welfare. I'd like to see the state welfare program continue in my state. Each state should choose these programs or not depending upon what they wish to fund.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Provide stats to prove the problem is as significant as you claim.
    Will do if you change your avatar to something pleasant to look at...that's a nasty pic dude.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Well, heck, then why fund schools at all??
    Because then there would be no books, computers or teachers... am I missing something or is your counter point 100% bizarre.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I have. I taught in one. There are books. There are teachers. Learning can take place. It isn't the school, it is the culture that they live in. Dad doesn't work or there is no dad so son doesn't work or knocks up a girl and won't be a dad himself. They know there is a safety net because mom gets food stamps, etc. They know they can bail because their ex-girlfriend will get food stamps if they bail. Nobody failed them but their parents. Society is trying to help them and they won't help themselves. You sum it up nicely... society helps them live bare-boned so why should they even try to do better when they are fine with that life style?
    Well said

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm onboard with doing away with federal welfare. I'd like to see the state welfare program continue in my state. Each state should choose these programs or not depending upon what they wish to fund.
    I've found it difficult to convince states much of anything to pick up on their own. In a severely conservative state, getting them to follow federal law is difficult by itself, and even harder to follow their own mandates. For one thing, their revenue is often not enough. Second, they may not want to do anything at all.
    "We all of us know down here that politics is a tough game. And I don't think there's any point in being Irish if you don't know that the world is going to break your heart eventually."-Daniel Patrick Moynihan, December 5, 1963

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Funding isn't relevant. There are books. There are libraries with computers. There are teachers. There are teachers that go the extra mile, in fact. I have taught at an elite private school and an inner city one and in between and learning is about attitude and motivation. That is it. Nothing more.
    And the truth shall set you free. Amen.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Will do if you change your avatar to something pleasant to look at...that's a nasty pic dude.
    That is one of the toughest and oldest creatures on this planet. Here's a cuter picture:

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    That is one of the toughest and oldest creatures on this planet. Here's a cuter picture:
    I buy RAID spray for things that look like that lol

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Please show your sources. What percentage of inner city girls start having children at 15 and have them with 5 or 6 different men, and where do you get this information?

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    And improving education so that it is more equitable for various demographics involves a large number of reforms, programs, and data tracking mechanisms, all of which are immensely difficult to design, let alone implement, and reflect with accuracy.

    Saying "fix education" is something most can agree with, but knowing what to do and doing it are three very different things.
    But I just provided an extremely simple solution and said I know what to do Fund all public schools equally, adjusted for expenses as they vary from different locations. I'm sure our government would try to make it as complicated as you describe, but it doesn't need to be.

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