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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Why just welfare that goes to people in the inner city? What about the rest of the welfare?
    They like corporate welfare and foreign aid. So I doubt they are concerned about those forms of welfare.
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    We have a cultural problem in America, particularly inner city, with people living on public money and not being productive members of society.

    Part of the problem is that underclass inner city women begin having babies at age 15. They continue to have babies, with different men, until they have had five or six. These women do not go to school. They do not work. They are not ashamed to live on public money. They plan their entire lives around the expectation that they will always get free money and never have to work.

    The inner city men who are part of the problem also do not work. They get social security disability payments for a mental defect or for a vague and invisible physical ailment. They do not pay for anything: not for housing (Grandma lives on welfare and he lives with her), not for food (Grandma and the baby-momma share with him), and not for child support.

    I once asked a 19 year old with no job and no schooling from the inner city, "What do you do all day?”

    “You know, just chill.” These men live in a culture with no expectations, no demands, and no shame.

    Should we change that? Should we get rid of the handouts and end welfare?

    Nothing wrong with the old soup kitchen. I don't believe in letting people starve, but let's get rid of food stamps, welfare payments, and other bs government giveaways.

    Let's make these people learn personal responsibility
    1. Soup kitchens ARE welfare.

    2. Most states don't give money to people without children (any welfare $ is for children).

    3. Most states confine welfare $ to people with children for a limited period of time, and usually require some form of job training or something along those lines.


    Because some people abuse the system is no reason to deny others who are truly needy the assistance they need during hard times. That's the kind of country we are: a civilized one.

    If you want to take away welfare from someone who doesn't need it, take away corporate welfare. Exxon sometimes pays no income taxes in America at all. Exxon doesn't need that welfare. And we the taxpayers spend a lot more on corporate welfare than helping the homeless.
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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    1. Soup kitchens ARE welfare.

    2. Most states don't give money to people without children (any welfare $ is for children).

    3. Most states confine welfare $ to people with children for a limited period of time, and usually require some form of job training or something along those lines.


    Because some people abuse the system is no reason to deny others who are truly needy the assistance they need during hard times. That's the kind of country we are: a civilized one.

    If you want to take away welfare from someone who doesn't need it, take away corporate welfare. Exxon sometimes pays no income taxes in America at all. Exxon doesn't need that welfare. And we the taxpayers spend a lot more on corporate welfare than helping the homeless.
    Exxon isn't a person.

    I don't think corporations should pay any tax at all, because they're not people.

    Exxon is an entity, and a very good one. It employs nearly 100,000 people, and it provides much-needed oil and gas to the world, which we all know we need.

    If you took away the tax on Exxon, how many more people could they afford to hire? Probably a lot... because the managers could run the company more efficiently without cash being siphoned off by the government.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    I would rather not have welfare. Who are we kidding, our gov't isn't going to reform welfare to any semblance of an efficient program meant to stimulate personal progress. Besides, how many people starved to death before welfare? You know what people did do? They loved each other much more because they had to rely on one another. If you were in need, you received a loving gift, not a cold, faceless entitlement.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I think all welfare should cease. Until each case is reviewed and authorized by a medical professional.
    If only we could get medical professionals to certify banks, Wall Street, pharmaceuticals, the sugar industry and such as sick then we might get Congress to actually to stop enabling them.










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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post

    If you took away the tax on Exxon, how many more people could they afford to hire? Probably a lot... because the managers could run the company more efficiently without cash being siphoned off by the government.
    If it takes fully staffed 50 people to run an oilrig why would they hire any more people even with tax cuts? It just doesn't make sense to hire more.

    FYI legally corporations do have personhood.

    Corporate personhood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If it takes fully staffed 50 people to run an oilrig why would they hire any more people even with tax cuts? It just doesn't make sense to hire more.

    FYI legally corporations do have personhood.

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    Greetings, winston53660.

    That's a very good question! What we need is a lot more real job openings that pay decent wages, period, because that growth has been anemic, sorry to say!

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Lets end warfare.

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    How about ending unwinnable wars that drag on forever , Iraq , Afghanistan ring a bell? OR BETTER YET don't start stupid wars in the 1st place..

    Im glad the War in Iraq was a HUGE FAILURE, oh yea throw Nam in there also, simply because i said it would and you Gopers wanted the ACA to fail, American Imperialism not so mighty anymore ay??

    I thought all of you Repugs, Tea Maggots were against BIG GOVERNMENT?? if so why do you want to stop gay marriage, Women from getting abortions, starting wars you can't win, throwing folks in prison for Weed??

    How about ending Corporate welfare??? the reason so many are on welfare is because of **** companies like Wal Fart that pay beans, folks go to the safety net mostly from the working poor to subsidize income just to live..

    Go ahead end welfare and see what happens?? most of the folks who receive welfare are white Women, of course many in the redneck states like Mississippi, that means more white babies, kids will die from sickness, starvation, mal nutrition, i don't have a problem with that, as long as you are all for it, your just killing more future Repug voters..

    Funny how voters in the South have been voting for the Repukes for 40+ years now, and your STILL the poorest part of the country, with the shortest life span, and most lack insurance because your states didn't expand medicaid..

    Glad to see you all are still voting for the same slime that is killing you off..

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    Re: Should we end welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976 View Post
    How about ending unwinnable wars that drag on forever , Iraq , Afghanistan ring a bell? OR BETTER YET don't start stupid wars in the 1st place..

    Im glad the War in Iraq was a HUGE FAILURE, oh yea throw Nam in there also, simply because i said it would and you Gopers wanted the ACA to fail, American Imperialism not so mighty anymore ay??

    I thought all of you Repugs, Tea Maggots were against BIG GOVERNMENT?? if so why do you want to stop gay marriage, Women from getting abortions, starting wars you can't win, throwing folks in prison for Weed??

    How about ending Corporate welfare??? the reason so many are on welfare is because of **** companies like Wal Fart that pay beans, folks go to the safety net mostly from the working poor to subsidize income just to live..

    Go ahead end welfare and see what happens?? most of the folks who receive welfare are white Women, of course many in the redneck states like Mississippi, that means more white babies, kids will die from sickness, starvation, mal nutrition, i don't have a problem with that, as long as you are all for it, your just killing more future Repug voters..

    Funny how voters in the South have been voting for the Repukes for 40+ years now, and your STILL the poorest part of the country, with the shortest life span, and most lack insurance because your states didn't expand medicaid..

    Glad to see you all are still voting for the same slime that is killing you off..
    I hope you feel better now.

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