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Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?


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I voted "no."

Why expose children to that? There are so many things that could go wrong.

Yeah, let us leave then in a hetero sexual parenting situation where both are doggies, or abusers, or violent, or worse.
Guess how that kid turns out.
I would hope for a reply to that point.
 
What a nice delusion.

Too bad this has actually been studied and, wouldn't you know it, Bob is dead right and you're dead wrong.

Being that you are from Texas, I'm not surprised that you are ignorant to the facts. Sorry....but pretty much every legitimate study has shown that children raised by gay parents do as well as children raised by heterosexuals. The few studies that say otherwise are generally always conducted and/or funding by right-wing propoganda groups. Sorry Charlie.
 
Yeah, let us leave then in a hetero sexual parenting situation where both are doggies, or abusers, or violent, or worse.
Guess how that kid turns out.
I would hope for a reply to that point.

Considering there's a waiting list to adopt, I think we can be choosy and screen out undesirable parents.

I wouldn't place a kid w a gay couple or an abusive couple. I think it can't be good for an innocent child to be exposed to such thinfs
 
Considering there's a waiting list to adopt, I think we can be choosy and screen out undesirable parents.

I wouldn't place a kid w a gay couple or an abusive couple. I think it can't be good for an innocent child to be exposed to such thinfs

I think the wait list is for babies, and such. Older kids are not wanted by many.
 
Being that you are from Texas, I'm not surprised that you are ignorant to the facts. Sorry....but pretty much every legitimate study has shown that children raised by gay parents do as well as children raised by heterosexuals. The few studies that say otherwise are generally always conducted and/or funding by right-wing propoganda groups. Sorry Charlie.

You were talking about single parents earlier, you want to backtrack on that?

Proven that children from single parent families are more likely to end up with problems
 
I think the wait list is for babies, and such. Older kids are not wanted by many.

I don't have as much of a problem with a gay couple acting as foster parents to older children who have already formed gender identity but I would worry about the potential for abuse
 
Considering there's a waiting list to adopt, I think we can be choosy and screen out undesirable parents.

I wouldn't place a kid w a gay couple or an abusive couple. I think it can't be good for an innocent child to be exposed to such thinfs

There isn't a waiting list to adopt. There are plenty of kids out there waiting to be adopted and not enough people willing to adopt them. Even for babies the wait is short unless you want a specific type of baby.
 
You were talking about single parents earlier, you want to backtrack on that?

Proven that children from single parent families are more likely to end up with problems


No backtacking at all. We were talking about all of the issues. However, are you conceding (taking single parents out of the equation) that a gay couple is just as good at raising children as a straight couple. It certainly sounds like you are conceding the point. If not, on what do you base your opinion, because they legitimate studies out there say otherwise.
 
No backtacking at all. We were talking about all of the issues. However, are you conceding (taking single parents out of the equation) that a gay couple is just as good at raising children as a straight couple. It certainly sounds like you are conceding the point. If not, on what do you base your opinion, because they legitimate studies out there say otherwise.

Not conceding anything. Let's address the single parent issue first, and get to gays after
 
Not conceding anything. Let's address the single parent issue first, and get to gays after

Sure...I'll address the single parent issue (although if you were following along, you would have seen that were dealing with more than this issue). In terms of single parents, it depends more on a number of factors, however, I would agree that studies have shown that children in single parent homes are more at risk to have lower test scores and lower graduation rates. But this fluctuates greatly based on how much support from the community and extended family the child has. In other words, it is based more of lack of time spent with the child when the single parent is working and away from the home than anything else.

As for the rest what are you basing your contention that gay parents do not make as good of parents as straight couples?
 
Considering there's a waiting list to adopt, I think we can be choosy and screen out undesirable parents.

I wouldn't place a kid w a gay couple or an abusive couple. I think it can't be good for an innocent child to be exposed to such thinfs


Where do you get the idea there is a waiting list to adopt?


There is a waiting list for white new born babies, but some adoptable children never get adopted because they are are not the cute cuddley new born (i.e. their to old, 5 and up), have special needs that prospective parents won't take on, or have behavioral issues.



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And they will adapt regardless of being deprived...

People can adapt to almost anything.

Providing a home for a child that is safe and nurturing seems like a pretty noble pursuit and a pretty valuable thing for the adopted child.

Given these two choices, if I'm the child, I would prefer to adapt to a safe and loving, nurturing environment than adapt to a cold and austere life of rejection and suspicion.

Maybe that's just me...
 
People can adapt to almost anything.

Providing a home for a child that is safe and nurturing seems like a pretty noble pursuit and a pretty valuable thing for the adopted child.

Given these two choices, if I'm the child, I would prefer to adapt to a safe and loving, nurturing environment than adapt to a cold and austere life of rejection and suspicion.

Maybe that's just me...

I think that you are agreeing with me but I can't tell...
 
As much as our decaying society tries to deny it, there are important, essential differences between male and female; and these differences play an important role, not only in creating children, but in teaching these children to become adults. The whole LGBQbpWTF movement is based on denying this hard reality, to the great detriment of society as a whole.

They are not denying this. You are denying that they simply are saying that two gay men have just as good of a chance as raising a healthy child as two hetero parents. They want equality and you want to deny equality. I know where you are going already with this too...

I know how to be a man, because I had a father to show me how. I know how to treat my wife, because my father showed me, in how he treated my mother. I knew what to look for in a wife, and I know what to expect of my wife, because my mother showed me by her example.

...and to those that had fathers that sexually abused their children or beat their wives? If you had one of those you would know how to "be a man"?

You cannot get this from a broken, defective family, with only one parent, or with two “parents” that are the same sex. By divine design, it takes a man and a woman—a mother and a father—to create a child, and it also takes a father and a mother to properly raise a child.

Plenty of hetero families are broken and defective ones that end in divorce, murder, beatings, abuse, sexual assaults... you have NO POINT.

Long before any of us lived, Mankind correctly recognized the tragic consequences of children growing up in “broken homes”, and that was with homes not nearly so broken and depraved as what our society is now trying to create and uphold.

When, where and how did mankind "recognize" these things and what was done about it...?
 
Before casting aspersions upon same-sex homes with children, why not take a long good look at heterosexual homes where sometimes that dark secret of incest sometimes rears its ugly head, or one parent is a drunk and abusive, creating a climate of fear under which the children are forced to grow up. Not everyone who gives birth to biological children make good parents. In fact, some are miserable transferring their neurosis to the child.

Your argument seems to be that because some homes based on a proper order turn out to be defective, that this somehow justifies creating a “home” that is inherently even more defective to begin with? That seems nonsensical to me.
 
reality and facts = there is no increase in negatives from gay parents based on sexual orientation alone :shrug:

bigoted and biased views wont change that and luckily since equal rights and common sense is winning it doesnt matter what they think anyway lol
 
Anybody who is against SSM or SSM adopting is a ****ing idiot that should lose all voting rights and be relegated to ditch digging for a career...
 
Your argument seems to be that because some homes based on a proper order turn out to be defective, that this somehow justifies creating a “home” that is inherently even more defective to begin with? That seems nonsensical to me.
"Proper"
"Order"
"Defective"

These are the inherently subjective words being used as a foundation of which is being built up and portrayed as an objective starting point.
 
Denying the liberty of those denying equality is fine with me...

people able to think and express their views on things, marriage/adoption is a privilege of government because it is contract of legality from government.

if people are being denied the privilege, then its government committing an unconstitutional act.
 
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How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study

Free summary:

Family Research Council


The summary is from a right wing publication and may be biased in presentation, but hey it's free. the linked university study is peer reviewed and very comprehensive, but you have to pay a few bucks I believe

LOL.....exactly what I said in my original post. Every legitimate study out there says that kids raised in gay households do just as well as kids raised in straight households. The only studies that say otherwise are funded by right-wing propaganda groups promoting their agenda. I was even going to mention the "family research council" but didn't. It is just ironic that you would list this in a sad attempt to try to make your point.
Epic fail! Try again. Find a study that isn't from a group with a right-wing social agenda. Let me save you the trouble - you can't.
 
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