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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    A child needs both a mother and a father. To intentionally deprive a child of this is indefensible.
    Having a penis or a vagina has a role in creating a child. However, the penis and vagina are the least important things when it comes to raising a child.

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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Whose "permission" do they need?
    The state's. Just like any other adoptive parents. The laws should be the same for all couples who wish to adopt.
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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    I suspect the state wasn't part of the "we" in the OP.
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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I would have voted "other" in the poll, had that option been present.

    Same-sex couples should be permitted to adopt .. but, they must conform to the same state-by-state regulations as any other couple.

    Thus, if a state says the couple must be married, then either the state must change their statute to additionally say "or homarried" (or whatever word that state has employed to differentiate marriage (meaning "a man and a woman as husband and wife") from what obviously isn't "marriage" (like a man and a man or a woman and a woman or a non-romantic domestic partnership, or whatever)) or the couple must conform to existing state statutes or not adopt.

    Regardless, however, a same-sex couple should be discouraged from adopting.

    This is because that parental gender role modeling significantly teaches a child subliminally how to behave in a romantic relationship as an adult and the great majority of the time a same-sex couple will damage a child thusly.

    In a marriage, the man and the woman as parents model how a man and a woman would behave in a romantic relationship, so if their children are either a boy or a girl, and if their children are straight (it is a roughly 94+ percent likelihood statistically that a child is straight, not homosexual, transsexual, or "bi"-sexual), then the children receive the proper and positive gender-appropriate role modeling.

    But in a homarriage, two men as parents present negative and damaging gender romantic role modeling gender-wise alone to a straight child and especially to a female straight child, and two women as parents present a negative and damaging gender romantic role modeling gender-wise alone to a straight child and especially to a male straight child.

    Two men in a same-sex romantic relationship are frequently physically rough with each other in a way that a man and a woman simply aren't, and thus a straight female child raised by these men would likely internalize that roughness as a "desirable" trait in her relationship .. and end up in a relationship with an abusive man where she could get severely injured or killed.

    Both married and homarried couples are equally apt percentage-wise to bring a similar degree of dysfunction into their relationship which will harm their kids, so this is a wash comparing either type of couple.

    But a homarried (same-sex) couple introduces an additional significant dysfunction inculcation into their children as I've just presented, which occurs the overwhelming vast majority of the time (the rare exception being a gay boy raised by two men partners and a lesbian girl raised by two women patners).

    The severity of the damage done to such children cannot be rightly and intelligently overlooked and dismissed.

    Though we know that homosexuality is an epigentic anomaly inculcated in a prenatal human during gestation, we as yet don't have a definitive lab test to determine if an infant, toddler, or young child is straight or gay or trans or the so-called "bi". If we did have such a test, we could direct gay boys to be adopted by male same-sex partners and lesbian girls to be adopted by female same-sex partners, as either of these adopted by either the opposite gender same-sex partners or a straight couple would be significantly harmed gender role-modeling-wise.

    Arguably, going without a parent in foster care is worse than the harmful gender role modeling I've presented here .. and I do stress the word "arguably".

    But there are many opposite-sex couples seeking to adopt .. and I would advise that until all qualifying opposite-sex couples adoptions have been satisfied, that qualifying same-sex couples be placed at the end of the line, for understandably good reasons I've presented here.

    I'm not saying that same-sex couples not be permitted to adopt.

    I'm simply saying that we need to be sensitive to the very real needs of the children being adopted first.

    It's simply stupid to be compelled into doing known harm to children merely because one has been sucked into a victim mentality acting-out state regarding the current issues projected onto same-sex couples.
    There is no such thing as "homarriage". Same sex marriage is legal in 37 states now. Not one of those states has rename the union "homarriage". Maybe it's time to drop that term?

    The rest is just conjecture.

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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I suspect the state wasn't part of the "we" in the OP.
    If SSM is denied in some for, or another by SCOTUS, which I doubt, then States laws would and should apply. And for Roberts the so called swing vote, I bet a dollar to a doughnut he will use sexual discrimination as part of his ruling in favor of SSM.
    As some states recognize SSM, I have no idea if SSM couples can adopt?
    I was interested in peoples opinions. Odd how those against SSM, for the most part avoided this thread like a Vampire and Holy Water.
    As in the end it has been public opinion dramatically changing in the past 10 years that forced State Govts. to legalize SSM, and that has brought this case to SCOTUS.
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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    No, they should not. As clearly delusional and defunct person's there is no way that they should be around children.
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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    The thread is about adaption.

    The child has already been deprived "of this".
    And they will adapt regardless of being deprived...
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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    A child doesn't care what genitals their parents have.
    Stupid kids never learn... if they took notes at conception they would know!! What is it the education system now-a-days??
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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    Of course
    "Sexual Orientation" straight, gay, Bi should never be a reason alone that impacts adoption, only an asshole would think it is.
    If the asshole was used then there would be no orphan... why don't people plan better!?!?
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    Re: Should SSM couples be permitted to adopt children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No, they should not. As clearly delusional and defunct person's there is no way that they should be around children.
    "Delusional" is poor word choice.

    As a bi male, I can recognize that anything not heterosexual is not normal and based in some sort of behavioral deviation, but I have no reason to believe this deviation is any more "harmful" (or harmful at all in relation to the children's mental health) than the myriad of mental issues any single person likely has, e.g. a narcissistic personality or some level of emotional retardation.

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