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Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

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If it were legal, and they made it known, would you?
 
No, not knowingly. But discriminating against to me is different than just not agreeing with it. Had Chik Fil-A said they wouldn't serve LGBTs, I wouldn't eat there. But the guy has a right to his opinion. Well he did. He died. Probably not because he didn't like LGBTs.

(if what you are asking has anything to do with Chik Fil-A. If not, carry on and ignore me.)

:D :D
 
No, not knowingly. But discriminating against to me is different than just not agreeing with it. Had Chik Fil-A said they wouldn't serve LGBTs, I wouldn't eat there. But the guy has a right to his opinion. Well he did. He died. Probably not because he didn't like LGBTs.

(if what you are asking has anything to do with Chik Fil-A. If not, carry on and ignore me.)

:D :D

If your business discriminates against anyone for any reason related to sex, race, religion, sexual orientation, handicap, etc then no I would not give you my business. And as stated above, disagreeing with something I agree with, like Chil-Fil-A, is different than refusing service to gay people.
 
If your business discriminates against anyone for any reason related to sex, race, religion, sexual orientation, handicap, etc then no I would not give you my business. And as stated above, disagreeing with something I agree with, like Chil-Fil-A, is different than refusing service to gay people.

Yeah. Isn't that what I said? :lol:
 
Yeah. Isn't that what I said? :lol:

Lol I'll expand my view point a little too. I believe that when you live in a nation, you are to "render unto Caesar" or in other words, conduct yourself in a manner that is dictated by those who dictate the rules. This includes businesses.

If im an individual and I decide to operate in commerce, that is my free will. No one is telling me I have to open up a business. If the law of the land dictates that your business, apartment complex, etc can't refuse commerce to someone based on a set of guidelines, then you must follow those guidelines. Again, you are not being forced to operate a business. You operate one of your own free will.
 
If it were legal, and they made it known, would you?

Maybe, it depends on how you define discrimination, and the availability of choices.

As a general rule I don't worry about the politics of business owners where I frequent. I shop at many places where business owners have differing political views then mine.

Will use the baker example, if a baker refuses to sell a gay customer a cake that says "happy birthday Clarence" I wouldn't shop there, if a baker who's outwardly religious refuses to cater a gay wedding, I have no problem with that.
 
Yeah. Isn't that what I said? :lol:

And a business should not be able to opt out of medical plans due to their religious beliefs.
 
And a business should not be able to opt out of medical plans due to their religious beliefs.

If we just enacted single payer healthcare that wouldn't be an issue because then employers wouldn't be buying insurance
 
Depends on the service or product provided, as well as the quality of said service or product. I would be completely willing to frequent an anti-LGBT business that provided pizza and/or sex, if it was very, very good pizza and/or sex.
 
I try to be a conscious consumer. I try and support businesses that share my worldview, which includes fair wages, respect for the environment, and positive contributions to the community.
 
Why not, lol...

It's their business... none of my business who they do business with. If they didn't want to sell to me - no skin off my butt, I'm sure I could find the product or service somewhere else.

It's supposed to be called freedom, private business, private property.

The reality is that Amerika has shifted so far to the left, and every one is so hyper-sensitive and ready to send the government, fangs dripping menace and hatred, at anyone who dares go against the majority. Time was, that was called Tyranny of the Majority. Nowadays, it's called political correctness.
 
If we just enacted single payer healthcare that wouldn't be an issue because then employers wouldn't be buying insurance

Many companies had this benefit before. What is the issue?
 
Why not, lol...

It's their business... none of my business who they do business with. If they didn't want to sell to me - no skin off my butt, I'm sure I could find the product or service somewhere else.

It's supposed to be called freedom, private business, private property.

The reality is that Amerika has shifted so far to the left, and every one is so hyper-sensitive and ready to send the government, fangs dripping menace and hatred, at anyone who dares go against the majority. Time was, that was called Tyranny of the Majority. Nowadays, it's called political correctness.

You support your neighbors so that you'll have neighbors to support you when you'll need it. That's what's unfortunately shifted.
 
I shop wherever I want. I could care less about the politics of a business. I have purchased spices at Prenzys, owned by a flaming liberal. If I shop there, I'll shop anywhere.
 
You support your neighbors so that you'll have neighbors to support you when you'll need it. That's what's unfortunately shifted.

Not sure what you mean by that... are you saying that I shouldn't patronize a business that refuses to do business with someone else - for whatever reason??

And that if I do, I am unworthy of being supported by my neighbor in some other instance?? Assigned a "scarlet letter" of shame b/c I don't fall in line with the majority??
 
Why not, lol...

It's their business... none of my business who they do business with. If they didn't want to sell to me - no skin off my butt, I'm sure I could find the product or service somewhere else.

It's supposed to be called freedom, private business, private property.

The reality is that Amerika has shifted so far to the left, and every one is so hyper-sensitive and ready to send the government, fangs dripping menace and hatred, at anyone who dares go against the majority. Time was, that was called Tyranny of the Majority. Nowadays, it's called political correctness.

Are you against the idea of Americans boycotting businesses that practice questionable ethics like discrimination?
 
Not sure what you mean by that... are you saying that I shouldn't patronize a business that refuses to do business with someone else - for whatever reason??

And that if I do, I am unworthy of being supported by my neighbor in some other instance?? Assigned a "scarlet letter" of shame b/c I don't fall in line with the majority??
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Are you against the idea of Americans boycotting businesses that practice questionable ethics like discrimination?

That isn't what you said - it isn't even what you implied I don't think.

To answer that question - no, I'm not against people boycotting anything. Everyone is free, or should be free, to frequent, or not frequent any business they choose - assuming the business owner chooses to do business with them. Why should the business owner surrender his rights??

What I am against, is any group or individual using the power of government to coerce another individual, group, or private business into complying with their demands - whatever they may be.

Unless someone is committing some act of harm upon another, then it is not within the governments authority (proper authority) to be involved in any way. Of course the country has shifted so far to the left now, that the average Amerikan citizen thinks it only proper that the government should be used as a truncheon against anyone who doesn't comply with what the majority dictates.

I may, or may not, patronize a business for one reason or another - but that is my business; just as you have the freedom to boycott a business; just as the business owner has the freedom to refuse service to anyone for any reason, afterall, it is their PRIVATE BUSINESS.
 

WOW - do you not get the irony of that!!!

Who is THEY??? They is the government... it is you who is saying the government should "come and get" the business owner b/c he is simply exercising his right to conduct his private business as he sees fit.

Just as the homosexual has every right to operate a business and refuse to do business with a christian if he/she doesn't want - each person is free.

Where people lose their freedom, is when government gets involved and uses force - it is you, and the LGBT groups that are seeking to use the power of government against others. You are the ones giving the power to THEY.

It amazes me that Americans can't see these things - America is supposed to be about freedom first and foremost; and, ... the essence of freedom is the limitation of government.
 
WOW - do you not get the irony of that!!!

Who is THEY??? They is the government... it is you who is saying the government should "come and get" the business owner b/c he is simply exercising his right to conduct his private business as he sees fit.

Just as the homosexual has every right to operate a business and refuse to do business with a christian if he/she doesn't want - each person is free.

Where people lose their freedom, is when government gets involved and uses force - it is you, and the LGBT groups that are seeking to use the power of government against others. You are the ones giving the power to THEY.

It amazes me that Americans can't see these things - America is supposed to be about freedom first and foremost; and, ... the essence of freedom is the limitation of government.
It's a statement about individualism v collectivism. If you fail to support others, others will fail to support you.
 
I look at life black and white. I don't care if you're gay, straight, bi, or anything else under the sun.

If a business discriminates against anyone, I will refuse to give them my money. I will refuse to give them my money. I am a person who doesn't care what you are, but who you are. If you're a kind person, I won't look at your sexuality, gender (natural or otherwise), race, religion, political party, nationality etc. If you are mean to others, I don't want anything to do with you. I'm certainly not blameless, and I don't try to act sanctimonious. I get irrationally angry at people, but I do try to hold myself to a standard.

That said, this is me personally. I choose not to support people who actively discriminate. That's it.
 
Probably not, have to use probably as I have and still would go to a place like Chik-fil-a (though they never discriminated but supported some ****ed up groups). Thing with them is figured most of the stores are franchises, ergo the owner may not agree with corporate's policies or statements.

A local place, or a franchise owner that did it, no way I'm going there.
 
This question is irrelevant anyway. It's illegal to discriminate in business against many people for many traits. Sexual orientation is an exception, as not all states have laws barring discrimination against sexual orientation, though I foresee this not being the case in a few years.

SHOULD businesses have the right to refuse business to someone for being black, or Christian, or atheist, or what have you? That's up to personal opinion. Legally, the answer is no.
 
Why not, lol...

It's their business... none of my business who they do business with. If they didn't want to sell to me - no skin off my butt, I'm sure I could find the product or service somewhere else.

It's supposed to be called freedom, private business, private property.

The reality is that Amerika has shifted so far to the left, and every one is so hyper-sensitive and ready to send the government, fangs dripping menace and hatred, at anyone who dares go against the majority. Time was, that was called Tyranny of the Majority. Nowadays, it's called political correctness.

tyranny of the majority is more like denying an entire subset of people the right to marry or have sex with whoever they want, simply because the majority dislikes them. If this were happening to bigot business owners, you might have a point, although even then it would simply be deserved.

A boycott of discriminatory business is hardly tyranny, get real. This tactic in fact put a stop to indiana's attempts to oppress lgbt, and it needs to be deployed more often if anything.
 
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