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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Fascism is a term thrown around a lot like communism. The fact that Walmart is legally barred from banning blacks from shopping from their stores is in no way fascism.

    You find all kinds on Internet political Orin's. Luckily most people don't share your views lol. They are ridiculous.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Where does the FedGov have the authority?? ...

    It is amazing how this escapes Americans today.
    It's amazing how it escapes you. A long time ago business did whatever they hell they wanted.

    Like Chicago's meat industry, for example, which didn't bother to pick out the rat feces or the even the rat corpses from their meat grinders.

    Or like how nightclubs would catch on fire due to unsafe handling of flames because of sheer negligence, which would then burn several hundred people alive.

    How about you have your next burger with a side of listeria or e. coli in a burning-down theater and then come back to us and explain why it's so terrible that our "fascist" government is stepping in to institute health codes, building codes,; zoning, license and permit laws, accommodation laws and the like.
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    It's amazing how it escapes you. A long time ago business did whatever they hell they wanted.

    Like Chicago's meat industry, for example, which didn't bother to pick out the rat feces or the even the rat corpses from their meat grinders.

    Or like how nightclubs would catch on fire due to unsafe handling of flames because of sheer negligence, which would then burn several hundred people alive.

    How about you have your next burger with a side of listeria or e. coli in a burning-down theater and then come back to us and explain why it's so terrible that our "fascist" government is stepping in to institute health codes, building codes,; zoning, license and permit laws, accommodation laws and the like.
    The Commerce Clause has been expanded beyond its original narrow intention, and I don't have an argument against some of that, but to be sure it has been expanded to abuse.

    That said, most of those types of laws are in-line with the 10th amendment, i.e. they are state matters and do not fall under the authority of the FedGov at all. Just as murder is not a Federal crime - except under certain circumstances.

    You guys need to reread the Constitution and what it is supposed to mean - Federalism is not completely dead yet.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    depends what the nature of the business is and how much I needed its product or services
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    If it were legal, and they made it known, would you?
    Yes. 100% I would also tell everybody that I knew not to shop there. Great way to find out if your friends are bigots.
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    I'm not saying a boycott is tyranny of the majority - a boycott is the exercise of free expression by an group of people. Nothing illegal about that. I am not speaking against boycotts.

    I am speaking against the government acting as a positive agent for the majority, outside its proper authority. The FedGov should have no say in the daily dealings of private businesses.

    This is America - America is supposed to be about freedom. If the LGBT group is refused patronage by one business, they are free to patronize another business who would only be too happy to accept their money. Everyone remains free to live their lives as they see fit.

    Where this goes off the rails is when, in this case, the LGBT community and their supporters seek to use the power of government to coerce another citizen to accede to their demands and force them to do business with them against their will.
    The government is simply an extension of the exercise of free expression of the people. The people think that if a business signs a contract with the government then the government can act on behalf of the people and outlaw certain aspects of conduct and business. America is not nor has it ever been a completely free society and that is what makes society here so strong and so great.
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Discriminate by refusing to hire or serve LGBTs? If I know about the policy, I absolutely would not patronize them. I'll not knowingly contribute to a racist or bigot's profit margin.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Yes. 100% I would also tell everybody that I knew not to shop there. Great way to find out if your friends are bigots.
    You seem to be contradicting yourself. You said yes, you would patronize businesses that discriminate, then added that you'd tell everyone else not to shop there. Am I missing something?

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    If it were legal, and they made it known, would you?
    My initial reactoin is to say "no", but frankly with the way some people claim "discrimination" I'm uncomfortable saying that.

    For example, I absolutely continued to eat at Chik-Fil-A. I did not view the charitable foundation that they give money to, then giving money to other organizations, who are opposed to same sex marriage as "discrimination" on the park of Chik-Fil-A. Now if Chik-Fil-A simply said they'd stop selling to gay Patrons...that'd be more likely to cause me to say "Fine, you won't get my business".

    It'd also depend on context to me. We've been hearing a lot about the bakers recently. A baker refusing to sell anything to "gay" people would likely cause me to not bother using that baker ever. A baker simply refusing to make something specifically for a gay WEDDING...an [b]EVENT[b], not a person or sexual orientation....because of their religious views would likely not cause me to withhold my business.
    Imagine if Walmart owned access to all the streets in your town. You can go to Target or the mom and pop downtown if you want, but all the roads leading there require a toll, whereas the roads leading to Walmart are free. That is not the avenue the internet needs to go down.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Same answer as I had to Josie's poll. I don't shop to make political and/or social statements. I shop somewhere because I perceive it to be the best value for my money. I rarely make a decision on where to spend my money based on my personal opinion of the owner or management. The only time is when I know there is animal abuse involved in the end product or service. Other than that, I don't care.
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