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Thread: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    I look at life black and white. I don't care if you're gay, straight, bi, or anything else under the sun.

    If a business discriminates against anyone, I will refuse to give them my money. I will refuse to give them my money. I am a person who doesn't care what you are, but who you are. If you're a kind person, I won't look at your sexuality, gender (natural or otherwise), race, religion, political party, nationality etc. If you are mean to others, I don't want anything to do with you. I'm certainly not blameless, and I don't try to act sanctimonious. I get irrationally angry at people, but I do try to hold myself to a standard.

    That said, this is me personally. I choose not to support people who actively discriminate. That's it.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    **** no.
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Probably not, have to use probably as I have and still would go to a place like Chik-fil-a (though they never discriminated but supported some ****ed up groups). Thing with them is figured most of the stores are franchises, ergo the owner may not agree with corporate's policies or statements.

    A local place, or a franchise owner that did it, no way I'm going there.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    This question is irrelevant anyway. It's illegal to discriminate in business against many people for many traits. Sexual orientation is an exception, as not all states have laws barring discrimination against sexual orientation, though I foresee this not being the case in a few years.

    SHOULD businesses have the right to refuse business to someone for being black, or Christian, or atheist, or what have you? That's up to personal opinion. Legally, the answer is no.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Why not, lol...

    It's their business... none of my business who they do business with. If they didn't want to sell to me - no skin off my butt, I'm sure I could find the product or service somewhere else.

    It's supposed to be called freedom, private business, private property.

    The reality is that Amerika has shifted so far to the left, and every one is so hyper-sensitive and ready to send the government, fangs dripping menace and hatred, at anyone who dares go against the majority. Time was, that was called Tyranny of the Majority. Nowadays, it's called political correctness.
    tyranny of the majority is more like denying an entire subset of people the right to marry or have sex with whoever they want, simply because the majority dislikes them. If this were happening to bigot business owners, you might have a point, although even then it would simply be deserved.

    A boycott of discriminatory business is hardly tyranny, get real. This tactic in fact put a stop to indiana's attempts to oppress lgbt, and it needs to be deployed more often if anything.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    It's a statement about individualism v collectivism. If you fail to support others, others will fail to support you.
    But you are advocating using government force against another private citizen - just as the fascists sought to use government force against Jewish business owners.

    The business owner is not seeking to use government force or coercion against the LGBT community, they are simply exercising their right to do business with whom they wish.

    Your viewing this exactly backwards - just as most Americans have come to view these issues in the most unAmerican of ways, i.e. that the Constitution is a positive document which gives the FedGov almost unlimited power over the people.

    The Constitution was designed to be a negative, constrictive document that constrained and prevented the government from imposing anything upon the people that it was not expressly empowered by the Constitution to do.

    The Constitution has been turned on its head. Instead of the people being free to conduct their lives as they see fit, free from government interference in their lives, we now live in a country in which the FedGov is empowered to arrest people without warrant, seize their property in direct violation of the 4th amendment, hold them without charge, and kill them without due process. Of course the government is also empowered to force the citizenry to purchase private financial instruments, and to dictate the terms upon which a supposedly private business can conduct its business.

    That brief summation is entirely characteristic of fascism, and entirely unAmerican, anti-liberty, and unconstitutional.

    Yet, here we are - "... in America today, the path to tyranny can be laid by entirely legal means."

    The threat here, as in almost all cases, is the government. It is not the business owner who, may or may not be a bigot. If he wants to be a bigot, don't do business with him - but you have no right to force him to do anything, nor does the government.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    If it were legal, and they made it known, would you?
    Yes. I would gladly patronize such a business.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    WOW - do you not get the irony of that!!!

    Who is THEY??? They is the government... it is you who is saying the government should "come and get" the business owner b/c he is simply exercising his right to conduct his private business as he sees fit.

    Just as the homosexual has every right to operate a business and refuse to do business with a christian if he/she doesn't want - each person is free.

    Where people lose their freedom, is when government gets involved and uses force - it is you, and the LGBT groups that are seeking to use the power of government against others. You are the ones giving the power to THEY.

    It amazes me that Americans can't see these things - America is supposed to be about freedom first and foremost; and, ... the essence of freedom is the limitation of government.
    won't someone PLEASE think of the white hetero christian male?!?

    yeah right, christians are by far a larger population, so a lgbt business refusing service to them is not even a blip on the radar compared to the damage done by laws like indiana's that specifically target lgbt

    cry more

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    But you are advocating using government force against another private citizen - just as the fascists sought to use government force against Jewish business owners.

    The business owner is not seeking to use government force or coercion against the LGBT community, they are simply exercising their right to do business with whom they wish.

    Your viewing this exactly backwards - just as most Americans have come to view these issues in the most unAmerican of ways, i.e. that the Constitution is a positive document which gives the FedGov almost unlimited power over the people.

    The Constitution was designed to be a negative, constrictive document that constrained and prevented the government from imposing anything upon the people that it was not expressly empowered by the Constitution to do.

    The Constitution has been turned on its head. Instead of the people being free to conduct their lives as they see fit, free from government interference in their lives, we now live in a country in which the FedGov is empowered to arrest people without warrant, seize their property in direct violation of the 4th amendment, hold them without charge, and kill them without due process. Of course the government is also empowered to force the citizenry to purchase private financial instruments, and to dictate the terms upon which a supposedly private business can conduct its business.

    That brief summation is entirely characteristic of fascism, and entirely unAmerican, anti-liberty, and unconstitutional.

    Yet, here we are - "... in America today, the path to tyranny can be laid by entirely legal means."

    The threat here, as in almost all cases, is the government. It is not the business owner who, may or may not be a bigot. If he wants to be a bigot, don't do business with him - but you have no right to force him to do anything, nor does the government.
    You've managed to completely ignore the fact that this thread isn't about imposing government force on business owners.
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against LGBT people?

    I would not want to patronize any establishment that discriminates. Period. My country is great because such bigotry is not one of it's founding principles.
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