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    Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    The government has used declaring curfews, establishing "protest areas" as the only place protesters may be, requiring a permit to have a protest gathering or march, and other rules that effectively criminal peaceful protests by which the police may arrest and criminally prosecute all protesters - and anyone who does not agree they can be basically placed under house arrest at night.

    Curfews for adults is a very different set of issues for adults than it is for children.

    There are other questions such as having an inherent right to be in public, as opposed to basically under house arrest every night in your own home.

    I would imagine bars are none too happy with a 10 pm curfew nor are companies and employees of night shifts.

    Is a curfew, "designated protest area," and a requirement to obtain permits for a protest rally or march legitimate? Unconstitutional? Good ideas?
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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The government has used declaring curfews, establishing "protest areas" as the only place protesters may be, requiring a permit to have a protest gathering or march, and other rules that effectively criminal peaceful protests by which the police may arrest and criminally prosecute all protesters - and anyone who does not agree they can be basically placed under house arrest at night.

    Curfews for adults is a very different set of issues for adults than it is for children.

    There are other questions such as having an inherent right to be in public, as opposed to basically under house arrest every night in your own home.

    I would imagine bars are none too happy with a 10 pm curfew nor are companies and employees of night shifts.

    Is a curfew, "designated protest area," and a requirement to obtain permits for a protest rally or march legitimate? Unconstitutional? Good ideas?
    Of course government can curfew and criminalize demonstrators. Assad did that in Damascus and just look how well it has worked.

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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The government has used declaring curfews, establishing "protest areas" as the only place protesters may be, requiring a permit to have a protest gathering or march, and other rules that effectively criminal peaceful protests by which the police may arrest and criminally prosecute all protesters - and anyone who does not agree they can be basically placed under house arrest at night.

    Curfews for adults is a very different set of issues for adults than it is for children.

    There are other questions such as having an inherent right to be in public, as opposed to basically under house arrest every night in your own home.

    I would imagine bars are none too happy with a 10 pm curfew nor are companies and employees of night shifts.

    Is a curfew, "designated protest area," and a requirement to obtain permits for a protest rally or march legitimate? Unconstitutional? Good ideas?
    I say yes they are unconstitutional.You have a right to peaceably assemble and protest.That said you don't have the right riot and to block the road, block access to a business, church, or some other place or to bogart a public space. I believe permits are for the exclusive use of those spaces. As far as I know in my state you can protest all you want on a public sidewalk as long as you are not blocking anyone else's access to that sidewalk. Protesting is one thing, it is a completely different thing if you are shutting down a business,city or blocking access to a place under the guise of a protest.
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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    It is the most fundamental duty of government to maintain public order and safety. In certain exceptional circumstances this can warrant a curfew.

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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    When it becomes impossible to readily identify the arsonists and looters among "peaceful" protesters then it's the obligation of the state to shut them down. Furthermore, if protest is used as a means to mask criminal behavior then it is no longer peaceful.

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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    This poll is a false question because there's no example or reference to the government ever instituting a curfew to thwart "peaceful" protesting. Curfews are only instituted when lawlessness occurs. Peaceful protests may be a victim of the lawless, and the governmental means to control the lawless, but they're not a direct victim of curfews.
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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This poll is a false question because there's no example or reference to the government ever instituting a curfew to thwart "peaceful" protesting. Curfews are only instituted when lawlessness occurs. Peaceful protests may be a victim of the lawless, and the governmental means to control the lawless, but they're not a direct victim of curfews.
    It's not because a curfew can be a legitimate action by government that it is never abused to simply stifle dissent or peaceful protest. This does happen in certain countries.

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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The government has used declaring curfews, establishing "protest areas" as the only place protesters may be, requiring a permit to have a protest gathering or march, and other rules that effectively criminal peaceful protests by which the police may arrest and criminally prosecute all protesters - and anyone who does not agree they can be basically placed under house arrest at night.

    Curfews for adults is a very different set of issues for adults than it is for children.

    There are other questions such as having an inherent right to be in public, as opposed to basically under house arrest every night in your own home.

    I would imagine bars are none too happy with a 10 pm curfew nor are companies and employees of night shifts.

    Is a curfew, "designated protest area," and a requirement to obtain permits for a protest rally or march legitimate? Unconstitutional? Good ideas?
    Government has the right to curtail or otherwise limit peaceful demonstration where demonstrators are interfering with the rest of us in a too large way or behaving in an unsafe manner. Reasonable restrictions on the right to assemble are a-ok with me.


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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    It's not because a curfew can be a legitimate action by government that it is never abused to simply stifle dissent or peaceful protest. This does happen in certain countries.
    I was presuming we were talking about western civilization, particularly the United States, and not dictatorships or communist regimes.
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    Re: Can government use curfews & other restrictions to outlaw peaceful protests?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I was presuming we were talking about western civilization, particularly the United States, and not dictatorships or communist regimes.
    like you, I presume the direct reference was to Baltimore. But the question was phrased in a general way.

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