Thread: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

Originally Posted by ernst barkmann

if there is no victim.....meaning that no rights are violated or no threat to the public......it cannot be illegal.

So by this otherworldy "logic", since there are "no" black slaves in the US, slavery is no longer illegal, since "all" previous slaves are long past, and present "victims" do not exist.

Why would anyone discriminate based upon ethnicity? It is beyond disgusting, and supporting such a business having that right is well words fail me.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

I'm not looking for any kind of out, I've described precisely what my beliefs are on this issue: I think racism is wrong, it's ugly, and I don't like it...but I think we're a much less racist country today than we were 50 years ago, which is a good thing, and I think we're ready to get the anti-discrimination laws off the books because we don't need them anymore.

Yes, because making racial discrimination legal again is a sure fire way to eliminate racial discrimination.

Yes I did understand what you meant by "discrimination," I just don't like seeing the English language get butchered when what you're really talking about is racism and racial segregation. Using the right words helps make your case.

Yes, because everyone knows that racial segregation and racism is not discrimination, that this discussion is not about racial discrimination, and advocating for businesses to be able to practice racial discrimination.....is not about discrimination!

Any more muddying you want to engage in?

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

I didn't advocate for racial discrimination

Uh huh...

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

I would not. I suspect most peoe would agree with me. Which is why such discrimination should be legal...the market will weed out the racists on its own

Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth

Not much, right now, you have folks, like yourself, advocating the legality of racial discrimination in public accommodation...just like defenders of Jim Crow.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

Yeah, I don't like the government being able to tell a business who they can or can't serve

Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth

So by this otherworldy "logic", since there are "no" black slaves in the US, slavery is no longer illegal, since "all" previous slaves are long past, and present "victims" do not exist.

slavery is an illegal action by law on people, because engaging in such a practice, it violates the rights of people....it is a criminal action.


discrimination by government is a unconstitutional action, because the constitution says that government cannot engage in such a practice, because it violates .....equality under the law.....which equality under the law applies for government only...not people.

discrimination is not a crime...because their is no rights violates.....rights violations are criminal law, discrimination is administrative law/regulations, and regulations are created to protect the public health and safety.

does discrimination against a person violate a person rights....no...does discrimination violate the public health and safety of the people....no.......therefore there is no victim for government to act for.

Originally Posted by CanadaJohn

I wouldn't personally patronize any business that I knew discriminated for any reason. I live in a very large city and there's nothing I want or need to buy that I can't buy in dozens or hundreds of different places. And one of the best parts of living in this city is the diversity of businesses and their owners.

Toronto is about as diversified as it gets.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

I think I've pretty clearly spelled out what my position is

Yes, you did...

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

I didn't advocate for racial discrimination

Uh huh...

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

I would not. I suspect most peoe would agree with me. Which is why such discrimination should be legal...the market will weed out the racists on its own

Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth

Not much, right now, you have folks, like yourself, advocating the legality of racial discrimination in public accommodation...just like defenders of Jim Crow.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

Yeah, I don't like the government being able to tell a business who they can or can't serve