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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Not much, right now, you have folks, like yourself, advocating the legality of racial discrimination in public accommodation...just like defenders of Jim Crow.
    Yeah, I don't like the government being able to tell a business who they can or can't serve, and I think the public has evolved enough over the years to where any business that wanted to discriminate by race would find themselves broke very quickly

    I don't think anti discrimination laws are American, and they're not needed anymore

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    If it was legal .....

    If a business -- any business -- decided to put a sign in their window saying "No [insert any race here] Allowed", would you still patronize that business?

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    Its no longer socially acceptable to discriminate based on race, but there is widespread support for discrimination against Muslims, and in many places, Hispanics and gays. In a few years another unpopular group will becomes the scapegoat de jour. Many businesses will not advertise their discrimination policies, so the general public will not know who is doing it. (and there is no guarantee that they will care) That is why we still need legal protection from discrimination. Support for legalizing discrimination is why I will never support a libertarian candidate for office. Libertarians are pawns of corporate interests, religionists and bigots.
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Uh, the passage of Civil Rights was not a "market" phenom, it was spurred on by "outside agitators" showing just how barbaric those who advocate for discrimination are, in fact.
    Duh. I never said it was a "market" phenom. You brought up Jim Crow, and Jim Crow has pretty much devolved and worked it's way out on it's own. I'm not going to say it's gone completely because it's not. But things have a way of working out on their own, by evolution if nothing more. People evolve, they grow up, they get smarter, things change.
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I would not. I suspect most peoe would agree with me. Which is why such discrimination should be legal...the market will weed out the racists on its own
    Chick-a-FillA got more popular due to their bigotry becoming public knowledge and businesses refusing to serve married or engaged gay people raised big bucks on-line from sympathizers. There is no reason to assume that he market will weed out bigots.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Duh. I never said it was a "market" phenom. You brought up Jim Crow, and Jim Crow has pretty much devolved and worked it's way out on it's own. I'm not going to say it's gone completely because it's not. But things have a way of working out on their own, by evolution if nothing more. People evolve, they grow up, they get smarter, things change.
    Things didn't just change on their own as people got smarter. Thousands of people put their time, money and their lives on the line to fight racial discrimination and many were jailed, beaten and murdered. Who knows if this forum represents the sentiments of the public in the USA, but about a third of the participants in this forum are bigots.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yeah, I don't like the government being able to tell a business who they can or can't serve, and I think the public has evolved enough over the years to where any business that wanted to discriminate by race would find themselves broke very quickly
    Um, because of legal penalty, not from pure market standpoint.

    The point still is, your "market" solution was not the cause of the ending of Jim Crow, in fact, the economic policies of the South produced slavery, and that ideology caused Jim Crow, the ideology can rear it's ugly head anytime someone spouts off with "I don't like govt (other people) telling me I cannot discriminate against niggers, faggots or anybody else I hate".
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Things didn't just change on their own as people got smarter. Thousands of people put their time, money and their lives on the line to fight racial discrimination and many were jailed, beaten and murdered. Who knows if this forum represents the sentiments of the public in the USA, but about a third of the participants in this forum are bigots.
    Yeah, I know -- I know all about the Civil rights movement, but do you honestly believe that, had all those in the fight not fought and died for civil rights, we'd still be where we were beforehand?

    I'd like to think not. I'd like to think that we've evolved, and that in 2015, we wouldn't have white's only lunch counters.
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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by PG
    the market will weed out the racists on its own
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    Sure it will....that worked out really well in the Jim Crow south.
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    Well it kinda did.
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    Duh. I never said it was a "market" phenom.
    So you don't read your responses for context of content.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, because of legal penalty, not from pure market standpoint.

    The point still is, your "market" solution was not the cause of the ending of Jim Crow, in fact, the economic policies of the South produced slavery, and that ideology caused Jim Crow, the ideology can rear it's ugly head anytime someone spouts off with "I don't like govt (other people) telling me I cannot discriminate against niggers, faggots or anybody else I hate".

    It wasn't the free market that caused Jim Crow laws, but a government that felt compelled to force businesses to discriminate. The social acceptance of discriminatory practices today is no where near what would be needed for such laws to be accepted today.

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    Re: Would you patronize a business that discriminated against a race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Yeah, I know -- I know all about the Civil rights movement, but do you honestly believe that, had all those in the fight not fought and died for civil rights, we'd still be where we were beforehand?

    I'd like to think not. I'd like to think that we've evolved, and that in 2015, we wouldn't have white's only lunch counters.
    Or businesses refusing to serve based on other biologic conditions....and having kooks defending those same discriminating business practices. Yeah, you would think that folks would have evolved enough to not even think that it is OK for business owners to discriminate.
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