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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    My current girlfriend dragged me to an AA meeting tonight. To be honest, I've never heard so much BS in my entire life. Alcoholism a disease? *Scoff* In my opinion, it's very simple - don't drink and you won't become a drunken ***h***e. More specifically, ever heard of the "steering wheel" concept? Keep your hands on the wheel and don't turn into those convenience store parking lots. It's that simple.

    Furthermore, these people (cult members - from my perspective) say that if you don't work the 12 steps, you will either die, go to jail or a mental institution. Guess what? I left AA in a huff over 20 years ago and still am alive, happy and free. Furthermore, all my old AA "friends" are either dead (most of them are dead - young or old at the time I knew them), in prison or in mental hospitals. I have News: AA does not work and is nothing more than a cult! And I'm living proof of that, being that I'm still around - if my niece or another family member ever has any problems with alcohol/drugs, the last thing I'm doing is sending them to AA.

    AA - what a waste of time. I spent two or three years going to them stupid meetings, working the steps, serving on committees, sponsoring others - I found AA at 19 and left at 23 in disgust (haven't been back since until tonight).

    I couldn't take it any longer: When it came my turn to share in the meeting, I said just about everything I just posted. You should have seen the looks on their faces.

    AA - A Big thumbs down and screw those people.
    I have struggled with drinking, to say for some people that it's as easy as stopping and not doing it though is a little inaccurate especially if you are a drinker. It's hard to really explain, but I got over it (although it sucked for a long time). I tried AA for 2 sessions before and yeah it is a waste of time very cultish.
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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    My current girlfriend dragged me to an AA meeting tonight. To be honest, I've never heard so much BS in my entire life. Alcoholism a disease? *Scoff* In my opinion, it's very simple - don't drink and you won't become a drunken ***h***e. More specifically, ever heard of the "steering wheel" concept? Keep your hands on the wheel and don't turn into those convenience store parking lots. It's that simple.

    Furthermore, these people (cult members - from my perspective) say that if you don't work the 12 steps, you will either die, go to jail or a mental institution. Guess what? I left AA in a huff over 20 years ago and still am alive, happy and free. Furthermore, all my old AA "friends" are either dead (most of them are dead - young or old at the time I knew them), in prison or in mental hospitals. I have News: AA does not work and is nothing more than a cult! And I'm living proof of that, being that I'm still around - if my niece or another family member ever has any problems with alcohol/drugs, the last thing I'm doing is sending them to AA.

    AA - what a waste of time. I spent two or three years going to them stupid meetings, working the steps, serving on committees, sponsoring others - I found AA at 19 and left at 23 in disgust (haven't been back since until tonight).

    I couldn't take it any longer: When it came my turn to share in the meeting, I said just about everything I just posted. You should have seen the looks on their faces.

    AA - A Big thumbs down and screw those people.
    Funny thing about alcoholism. It's one of the few diseases that tell's you that you don't have it. Good luck to you.

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Funny thing about alcoholism. It's one of the few diseases that tell's you that you don't have it. Good luck to you.
    Lol where do you get that from? Most guys that drink after awhile know they shouldn't be doing it, but do it anyways. Like they say "Well after last night I'm never doing that again!" Then about an hour before quitting time they start to think about it, they flip a coin, they say just one more time, etc, etc..
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Lol where do you get that from? Most guys that drink after awhile know they shouldn't be doing it, but do it anyways. Like they say "Well after last night I'm never doing that again!" Then about an hour before quitting time they start to think about it, they flip a coin, they say just one more time, etc, etc..
    Ohhhh, dunno. Guess it's just something called experience.

    I'm a product of a lot of folks in my family who died prematurally from alcoholism and I had a sibling who died from ODing. Another who's spent much of his life in prison because of his drug and alcohol addictions. Robbing people at gunpoint tends to get people in trouble.

    And I have 29 years sober.

    And see my post #50.

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Funny thing about alcoholism. It's one of the few diseases that tell's you that you don't have it. Good luck to you.
    Perhaps the second person in this forum that I highly respect/admire, after CaptainCourtesy, that is.

    Dang you people, but I won't try to argue with you, either.

    Good luck to you as well.

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Sorry, but because of the hold they have on government via court ordered AA meetings, they are at the top of my list, where they will remain. People are not all the same and should not be forced into a cookie cutter system.
    It's not AA's fault the judicial system refers people there. Your irritation should be with the judicial system for even trying to refer addicts anywhere.

    It seems you and some are trying to find something objectionable about it. In the grand scheme of things they are the least deserving of scathing criticism.
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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Funny thing about alcoholism. It's one of the few diseases that tell's you that you don't have it. Good luck to you.
    Well just like AA, I guess some are more self aware than others. I never got to the point where I was so desperate for a drink I was drinking rubbing alcohol or mouth wash (something I've heard of people doing) but I would buy was to much and it became a financial pitfall.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well just like AA, I guess some are more self aware than others. I never got to the point where I was so desperate for a drink I was drinking rubbing alcohol or mouth wash (something I've heard of people doing) but I would buy was to much and it became a financial pitfall.
    And I wasn't an under the bridge drunk like my dad when he drank himself to death either. He was a street person for the last 8 years of his drunken life. He didn't start out as a street person.

    There's no way to predict where your life will end up...at least by me. I'm not judging anybody in this forum. I don't want to live everybody's life for them. I had hell trying to get through my 25 years of self-destructive drinking and drugging.

    I wish all good luck...

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    And I wasn't an under the bridge drunk like my dad when he drank himself to death either. He was a street person for the last 8 years of his drunken life. He didn't start out as a street person.

    There's no way to predict where your life will end up...at least by me. I'm not judging anybody in this forum. I don't want to live everybody's life for them. I had hell trying to get through my 25 years of self-destructive drinking and drugging.

    I wish all good luck...
    Thanks and I wish the same to you - please check your pm's, by the way.

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    I apologize for this, to any that were offended. I'm in no way a "Vader." LS was always my favorite - at least when I was a little kid. But I wasn't in a great mood last night, so I understand anyone whom didn't appreciate the post below. Thanks to all who responded in this thread - I guess if AA works for a lot of people, it can't be that bad. Where I went to meetings in Miami as a 20 year old, there were a lot of sexual predators in those meetings (but, was it "real" AA? - perhaps another topic) - won't go into detail as to why I hated those people, but one can probably read between the lines what I'm saying.

    Anyway, I apologize to all recovering Alcoholics for what I've said in this thread - and to the people whom still actively drink. AA isn't for everyone, but it can help.

    Thanks for reading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Did I mention that the Sith were my heroes in Star Wars?

    If not, Will reveal myself now:

    I am Darth Vader (formerly known as Anakin Skywalker). Sith = ME and my master. AA = Jedi. Get it now?


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