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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Happy Day, DP!

    It's Day 18 for me now and I couldn't be happier.

    Don't expect to relapse now (am much too happy in sobriety), but will definitely let you guys know if/when that happens (God willing, it never will).

    Thanks, everyone, for a super fantastic thread - and for helping me get sober. For that, I will be eternally grateful.

    From one whom is about to rock, I salute you - I love AA and DP!!!! Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?-salute-veterans-day-memorial-day-united-states-smiley-emoticon-001226-facebook-gif

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    Happy Day, DP!

    It's Day 18 for me now and I couldn't be happier.

    Don't expect to relapse now (am much too happy in sobriety), but will definitely let you guys know if/when that happens (God willing, it never will).

    Thanks, everyone, for a super fantastic thread - and for helping me get sober. For that, I will be eternally grateful.

    From one whom is about to rock, I salute you - I love AA and DP!!!! Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?-salute-veterans-day-memorial-day-united-states-smiley-emoticon-001226-facebook-gif

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    Congratulations (seriously).... quitter, (not so seriously).

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You don't have to be a theist to join. Not at all. Plenty of atheists are members of AA... including some members who have admitted as such in this very thread.
    I realize that, and that's fine, but I'm talking about the legality of court mandated AA attendance for atheists who object to a theist-structured approach to recovery. That's all.

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    Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I am not sure that you understand the word force. Noone is forced into AA. AA is given as an option in place of incarceration for people who have violated the law because they have shown they cannot drink responsibly. If you dont like AA, either don't break the law or accept the punishment. And yes, help is help. If alcohol is ruining your life, ruining your family, ect and AA can help, then it is help. This idea that so many of you have that since it has religious undertones to it is clearly bad is asinine. AA isn't telling you to convert to a specific religion or anything else. If you are in AA you have either admitted or proven that you alone cannot control your addiction. Faith is a powerful tool, regardless of what you are putting that faith into. Most people believe in something. Whether that is a God of any variety or some other spiritual support either external or internal.
    There are any number of recovery programs out there, many of them with internal subsidies for alcoholics. Courts defer to AA because it has become the standard. And I'm sorry, but prison vs. AA is not a real choice... obviously people will choose AA if only given those two choices.

    Look, people are blowing what I've said out of proportion. All I'm saying is that it's constitutionally questionable to make someone go to AA who doesn't believe in god and objects to a recovery structure that requires belief in a higher power. And many court rulings agree with me. For the life of me I don't know why AA is the universal standard when there are many other programs. There's also the little circulated fact that the AA structure doesn't work for everyone.

    I'd rather the courts mandate "rehab" as a general notion, than specifically AA. Courts should not be endorsing private organizations.

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