Guinea pigs are amazing furry creatures !!
Gee like I have not run into this type before...not.
Having dealt with you before I will not waste my time trying to convince you of anything...the effort would be wasted.
What I will say is that if you need something external to stop you from using again, then that external thing IS a crutch. To say it is not is just counselling gobbledegook that your types use so that those you 'help' feel good about these crutches they use.
And yes, people do quit. If you have not used for 12 years, then you have quit for the 12 years...by the very definition of quit. Yes, you are still an addict...but you have quit. But like anything you quit, you can always start doing it again. Until you die, nothing you quit is forever.
And, once again, if you have never been addicted to the 'drug' in question (booze, drugs, food, porn, whatever) then it is you who does not understand the subject.
It is the height of arrogance and ignorance to have never done something and then to turn around and tell someone who has done that thing that you know better then they do what they are going through and that you know better then they do how to stop it.
What's next? Assuming you are a man, are you going to tell women how you know better then they do what childbirth feels like?
Go back to your practice and make more money telling other people about things you have never experienced yourself pal.
We are done here as I am not wasting another minute on your know-it-all, arrogant nonsense.
Last edited by DA60; 05-03-15 at 01:42 PM.
'What kind of sick and twisted toy factory is this?'
'We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile, and nothing can grow there. Too much, the best of us is washed away.'
"Better to be dead and cool, than alive and uncool."
The saying is true, one drink will send you back to your addiction. Maybe not the first one drink, or the second one drink, but it is the third/fourth/fifth one drink that will send you back to your addiction. Because the problem is with addictions, you cannot do "moderation" when it comes to your alcohol intake, if you were able to do that you would not be an alcoholic addict in the first place.
Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.
Ask a random person to not drive their car for a week and use public transportation. He or she make every excuse possible to not use public transportation. They'll become defiant and possibly emotionally distraught. Anxiety will kick in. They'll say that they don't use their car out of convenience, but out of necessity. Yadda, yadda, yadda...but in the end, it's their fix.
Take someone's refrigerator away for a month. Or washer/dryer. It would cause people to change how that shop for food and preserve perishables. It was cause people use laundromats. The means changing their routines . What a hassle, right?
Nobody sets out to be an alcoholic. Many who drink a lot never become alcoholic but statistics suggest that about 1 in 10 people who drink, whether they drink moderately or a lot, are genetically susceptible to alcoholism. And at some point, early, midlife, or late, they will cross an invisible line into alcoholism. And it is a bonafide, medically recognized disease that affects a person physically, mentally, and spiritually.
Those who have strong, intelligent support and encouragement and incentive in their professional, personal, and social lives will be more likely to succeed than those who do not have that. By the time some are willing to get help, they have already estranged themselves from such support. Those who depend on their old drinking buddies for socialization are far more likely to slip and relapse. It takes awhile to get the program whether it is AA for the alcoholic or Al-anon for their loved ones. Many don't stick around long enough to 'get it' and those are the ones more likely to hold such self-help support groups in contempt. And of course there are always those who a) won't admit they have a problem or b) refuse to think alcoholism is a disease rather than a moral weakness or c) are convinced they don't need help to get and stay sober.
There are no guarantees no matter what means a person uses to get sober. It takes very little to break sobriety and it simply is going to happen for many. We are a drinking society and the temptation is everywhere. The last studies I saw, however, show that those who stay sober for four or more years are less likely to choose to slip or relapse than those who have less time in sobriety.
But I give AA a strong thumbs up for the positive benefit it has been for many, many thousands of individuals.
"I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776