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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Limited, unlimited sharing of wealth would be insane IMHO. I am a social democrat, not a communist

    And in times when the economy is performing very well and the budget is balanced and the debts of the government are being paid off in a sufficient manner then everybody will see their tax levels dropped, the rich more than the lowest incomes.

    Because I am of the economic "school/opinion" that in times of crisis the people with the broadest financial shoulders have to bear more of the weight of the government finances and in times when the economy is doing really well they should be rewarded for their "heavy lifting" during the crisis so that they are compensated for paying a bigger piece of their income during the crisis.
    There are very few politicians in the US that are completely against any sharing of wealth. You can probably find some, but I'm not aware of any.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is a rather silly speech designed to sound good while having exactly zero substance. And he is wrong both in saying that America is not the greatest country in the world, and his over the top rose tinted glasses while looking back.
    It all depends on what you define as "great" though doesn't it, America is a nice place to live no doubt but certain parts of it are certainty not ideal for raising families and can be extremely violent. America is the most powerful country but that doesn't mean it's the greatest.
    Saying that however I don't really see any country as being the "greatest" to live in, as they say home is where the heart is.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    Most people from outside the USA are not going to agree with any American that America is objectively the "greatest country" in the world, if it is sincerely believed.
    It's okay. We don't mind if those from other nations do not agree. In the categories that matter to us....specifically was differentiates us from virtually all other nations is what we feel makes us the greatest nation. We are not offended if you disagree.


    You just open yourself to being knocked down on an endless number of issues.
    In your opinion, maybe. However in some of those categories, I would bet that your nation and mine tabulate results differently.


    Sure, be proud of your country, and I'll be proud of mine. I can also admire your country,
    You should be proud of your country. It has a long and rich history.

    but I won't bother telling you what I admire about it if you keep telling me that it's the best.
    That is completely up to you.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i used to buy into that label when i was younger. now "greatest country" mostly seems to mean that the US is expected to intervene in global conflicts instead of building a nice country that takes care of its citizens and innovates a better and more stable society than anywhere else. there are all sorts of measures for how good it is to live somewhere, not just brute strength or economic power. why not just shoot for greatest quality of life? that seems to be the best measure.
    Some of that American intervention is usually being the first on the scene bringing the most, and helping the most after a natural disaster.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Some of that American intervention is usually being the first on the scene bringing the most, and helping the most after a natural disaster.
    i'm good with disaster aid. i'm not good with the US being expected to act as the world's pro bono military. we've neglected our own country for long enough, and it's someone else's turn.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm good with disaster aid. i'm not good with the US being expected to act as the world's pro bono military. we've neglected our own country for long enough, and it's someone else's turn.
    No one else is capable enough, or disinterested enough. Madeleine Albright was on the mark when she said the US is the indispensable nation.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No one else is capable enough, or disinterested enough. Madeleine Albright was on the mark when she said the US is the indispensable nation.
    our region is our responsibility. other regions are the responsibility of the regional hegemons there.

    a hypothetical for you, Jack : are you willing to pay significantly higher wartime tax rates whenever our troops are deployed or when we are involved in a military action abroad?

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    our region is our responsibility. other regions are the responsibility of the regional hegemons there.

    a hypothetical for you, Jack : are you willing to pay significantly higher wartime tax rates whenever our troops are deployed or when we are involved in a military action abroad?
    Yes. It was a great error by GWB not to impose a war tax.
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