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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The EU as a whole receives more than double the number of immigrants per annum than the US.
    from? those seeking to escape the middle east subscribe to the idea of "any port in a storm"....
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    That video is beyond ****ing stupid. Anyhow, yes. The most powerful military and economy for starters. The world leader in tech/innovation, exports of arts and culture, the largest humanitarian contributor, the best sports scene and the list goes on. Don't think I'd rather live anywhere else

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    TBH I've never heard claims for the nation being 'the greatest' anywhere other than the US.
    Then the answer should be obvious by now. I mean, if you don't think you're great then you're probably not.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, and yes.
    Wow! Now that is shocking!

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The EU as a whole receives more than double the number of immigrants per annum than the US.
    And people are flocking to Bulgaria because it's so receptive to foreigners or what? How many immigrants does the EU permit entry based on a desire to admit them versus how many just come in because they're fleeing war or famine?
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    We've still got the greatest military, the greatest cultural influence, and the greatest international clout of any country on the planet. Our economy, however, while still worldclass, has recently been overtaken by China.

    Our social condition has been deteriorating for decades, and that is gearing up to come around and bite us in a big way.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'll say up front that I didn't view the link - I don't listen to anything celebrities say about politics or world affairs - they are no more relevant to me than "man-on-the-street" interviews.

    Secondly, I didn't respond to your poll because I didn't have an option that suited my view. Depends on your definition of "great".

    For me, America is a great country - has been, and likely always will be, at least for as long as I'll be alive. But I'm Canadian and I believe Canada is also a great country with remarkable people, stunning and varied landscape, seemingly boundless resources, and a tremendous future. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. That makes Canada the greatest to me.
    Thank you. Seriously, thank you. I did watch the video and I couldn't really argue with what he said, though I still have no clue as to where he stands on the issue or what he thinks went wrong. I do want for all to be able to say they live in the best place for them and that they love it wherever it is. That is a great thing. If all seven billion people on Earth looked for the same thing as the ideal, some place is going to be really crowded.

    So for me, the United States is the greatest country because I don't want to live anywhere else. I couldn't answer the poll because 'greatest' means so many different things to everybody.

    At the same time, I have already lived a long life and have a lot more of it behind me than I can expect to be ahead. And I can remember when just about everybody, black, white, brown, other, saw this as the land of opportunity and possibilities and we weren't afraid of much of anything. I can remember when we expected good old fashioned American hard work, ingenuity, and resourcefulness to solve our problems and did not expect or want the government to do much about that. For me, that was a much better time in America.

    I do think we Americans lost some of our greatness when we exchanged a live and let live attitude for so much judgmentalism, blame, partisanship, and expectation for others to provide what we want. Such has always existed, but it was very limited 50-60 years ago. I think we lost a lot of greatness when so many started giving the responsibility to government to order society instead of doing that ourselves and, IMO, that is when we started losing so much ground in all those stats he rattled off in that video whether he got them exactly right or not. He was speaking extemporaneously so can be forgiven if he got some of the numbers wrong. He is right that we have lost a lot of ground.

    But I still don't want to live anywhere else.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    from? those seeking to escape the middle east subscribe to the idea of "any port in a storm"....
    As opposed to those seeking to leave Honduras, El Salvador and Mexico.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    And people are flocking to Bulgaria because it's so receptive to foreigners or what? How many immigrants does the EU permit entry based on a desire to admit them versus how many just come in because they're fleeing war or famine?
    The same goes for all 3rd-1st world migration.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Then the answer should be obvious by now. I mean, if you don't think you're great then you're probably not.
    I think we have a long and dishonourable history of claiming to be the best in the world for many years. And there is of course the word "Great" in "Great Britain" which endures. But I have to hand it to the USA - it's definitely the best and claiming to the best in the world, judging by this thread. Here's my (slightly-biased) best in the world list:

    Democracy - Scandinavian countries
    Food - France
    Style - Italy
    Music - Austria
    Pomp and ceremony - UK
    Sitcoms - USA
    Wine - very hard to choose and USA is up there (UK is not)
    Sports - UK
    Cars - Japan
    Washing machines - Germany

    That's enough for now!

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