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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    After all, what self-evidently superior being has to tell others of his superiority?
    I agree with you entirely, but... Muhammed Ali? He WAS the greatest, wasn't he?
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Because a little humility and introspection go a long way, especially in a country prone to blind patriotism.
    Really? All the applause from the left whenever this nation is hurt or humiliated is really just for our humility and introspection?

    And where does America's humiliation take us, in the leftist's mindset?
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That was not my intent.

    I was trying to say that War seems inherently dirty, and any involved parties almost inevitably seem to participate in a questionable action at some point.

    Thus I dislike that it appears some are singling out the USA as the crowning example of a nation being involved in acts that are questionable or outright wrong - be they military or otherwise.
    When other nations have had and are having similar issues.

    I'm saying it all needs to be addressed.
    While I agree that it all needs to be addressed, I don't think that the US is being singled out. Everybody has talked at length about the crimes of Mao, Lenin and Hitler. It's US war crimes that folks like to sweep under the rug.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    When you're King of the Hill, it's only natural that someone with an inferiority complex wants to knock you on your ass. From my perspective, though, you don't try to defend the indefensible. For example, there can be no moral justification for the indiscriminate killing of kids with incendiaries as we did in Japan during WWII. But do I lose sleep over it? No. If there is a moral to that story it is don't place war production among civilians in so-called micro-factories. If you do, then you better be willing to assume the consequences. The Japanese have no one to blame but themselves for the hell that was rained upon them.
    Lol. Not even the War Department tried to justify the use of Fat Boy on the targeting of "micro factories"
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    When you're confronted with something like ISIS ass kicking is the only solution. And I mean we need to dig up Curtis LeMay.
    Yeah, dig up an old war criminal. Create an environment that breeds the Islamic State, and then start the hand wringing.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    These words should be taken with a bucket of salt. When he was President Eisenhower fully believed in the usefulness of nuclear weapons.
    Well that's better than a grain. Lol, Eisenhower comments that you like are relevant, the ones you don't, salt.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    If a slaughtered people doesn't demand an apology and reparation, we shouldn't breathe a sigh of relief or presume we did nothing wrong. Do you agree with me on this?
    Correct. If the U.S. doesn't demand an apology or reparations from Afghanistan for harboring al-Qaeda after it bombed our embassies and killed thousands of innocent people on 9/11, then it shouldn't presume that it did nothing wrong. But do we owe Afghanistan an apology for excising this cancer from the country? No.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Really? All the applause from the left whenever this nation is hurt or humiliated is really just for our humility and introspection?

    And where does America's humiliation take us, in the leftist's mindset?
    The United States is only being hurt or humiliated by the stupidity of its own citizens. We're the only industrialized nation where we're still debating the reality of evolution or climate change. No one on the left celebrates that. We're terribly behind on equal treatment for women and gays. No one on the left celebrates that. We've become one of the worst industrialized nations for economic mobility and equity. No one on the left celebrates that. And the worst humiliation that this country suffers is how few of its citizens are actually ashamed of these things. That causes us a lot more harm. And if we could stop chanting "USA #1" long enough to see our problems, then maybe we could start to do something about them.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, dig up an old war criminal.
    In the first place, the whole concept of a "war criminal" is a sort of oxymoron that needs some tweaking. In one sense war itself is a crime. But then when you have a criminal who's trying to do you harm you have every right to defend yourself. Like I said, the Japanese made the decision to not separate their war production from the civilian populace, so if there's any culpability for killing civilians it rests with them.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    In the first place, the whole concept of a "war criminal" is a sort of oxymoron that needs some tweaking. In one sense war itself is a crime. But then when you have a criminal who's trying to do you harm you have every right to defend yourself. Like I said, the Japanese made the decision to not separate their war production from the civilian populace, so if there's any culpability for killing civilians it rests with them.
    Anybody can justify anything. Your hero Curtis LeMay, realised that the victors in war walk, while the losers are tried and hung. He knew well that had the US lost the war, he'd have been tried.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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