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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Thus I dislike that it appears some are singling out the USA as the crowning example of a nation being involved in acts that are questionable or outright wrong - be they military or otherwise.
    When you're King of the Hill, it's only natural that someone with an inferiority complex wants to knock you on your ass. From my perspective, though, you don't try to defend the indefensible. For example, there can be no moral justification for the indiscriminate killing of kids with incendiaries as we did in Japan during WWII. But do I lose sleep over it? No. If there is a moral to that story it is don't place war production among civilians in so-called micro-factories. If you do, then you better be willing to assume the consequences. The Japanese have no one to blame but themselves for the hell that was rained upon them.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Please explain what exactly makes a country great and how the United States exemplifies that more than every other nation.
    Please explain why people applaud the idea that we are not great.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Please explain why people applaud the idea that we are not great.
    Because a little humility and introspection go a long way, especially in a country prone to blind patriotism.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Because a little humility and introspection go a long way, especially in a country prone to blind patriotism.
    We have Oliver Stone and Michael Moore for that. At this point in our history I'd prefer a little more ass kicking and less introspection.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    We have Oliver Stone and Michael Moore for that. At this point in our history I'd prefer a little more ass kicking and less introspection.
    And that is why you are very likely part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And that is why you are very likely part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.
    When you're confronted with something like ISIS ass kicking is the only solution. And I mean we need to dig up Curtis LeMay.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    When you're confronted with something like ISIS ass kicking is the only solution. And I mean we need to dig up Curtis LeMay.
    We are not confronted with ISIS. They're on the other side of the world. And killing them is not any solution. We've been killing terrorists for decades, and all we've gotten for our troubles is more terrorists.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    We are not confronted with ISIS. They're on the other side of the world. And killing them is not any solution. We've been killing terrorists for decades, and all we've gotten for our troubles is more terrorists.
    They beheaded citizens of ours. That alone is enough in my opinion to obliterate every last one of them. And, yes, we've been killing terrorists for a long time, and we might have to keep killing them, but every one you eliminate is one less threat you have to deal with. The fact that we haven't had another 9/11 is evidence that we must be doing something right. On the other hand, I'd like to see your evidence that if we didn't confront them with force they wouldn't pose a threat. At some point I think ISIS will be relegated to the dustbin of history. I can't say when, but it will happen, most likely because some people with a lot of weapons just decide to kick ass. Whether we'll be included among the ass kickers I can't say.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Top candidates would be Switzerland or Norway .. or Japan ..However, neither have our problems with minorities and intolerance.
    Excuse me? I can't think of a more xenophobic or racist society than Japan. If you're black, good luck renting an apartment in Tokyo. You'd better rent a stand-in to meet the landlord. You only don't see evidence of intolerance because Japan pretty much doesn't admit immigrants.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    General Dwight D. Eisenhower: "In 1945 ... , Secretary of War Stimson visited my headquarters in Germany, [and] informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act.... During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and second because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face.'
    These words should be taken with a bucket of salt. When he was President Eisenhower fully believed in the usefulness of nuclear weapons.

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