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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    This is wrong on so many levels... we showed up in the end of WWI after the Allies had already turned the tide of the war and in WWII the British had already turned the Nazis back in Africa, their navy had stopped the German Navy ending forever any thought of invading Britain and the Russians handled the Eastern Front almost 99% on their own.
    Hitler's biggest problem was biting off much more then he could chew. If he had not invaded Russia, Great Britain very well may have fallen both in Africa and at home. And it was the allies under American leadership that liberated western Europe.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Hitler's biggest problem was biting off much more then he could chew. If he had not invaded Russia, Great Britain very well may have fallen both in Africa and at home. And it was the allies under American leadership that liberated western Europe.
    Taking on Russia with Two Fronts going on was a mistake. Also, the delay in launching his attack on Russia didn't help at all.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    A great nation? Yes... I just find it great for white men for most of its existence. Other nations had their **** together far before the USA. New Zealand, Australia, The U.K., for example.
    They had their **** together, yes...but not in quite the way America has. America for instance became the economic and military power house it is despite the limited time it has existed compared to Europe. America is unique.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    They had their **** together, yes...but not in quite the way America has. America for instance became the economic and military power house it is despite the limited time it has existed compared to Europe. America is unique.
    We were and still are one of the only nations to have such an industrial base to do so...
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    They had their **** together, yes...but not in quite the way America has. America for instance became the economic and military power house it is despite the limited time it has existed compared to Europe. America is unique.
    Then again, America always has been - for most diplomatic and military purposes - an island nation. After the War of 1812, unlike almost every other nation on the planet, we've never had an enemy next door to us that could present an existential threat to our nation.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I have to disagree. Even if all of those troops were in Britain, I doubt they could have stood up any better to the Nazis than they did. They may not have had those troops in the first place if they did not have the colonies. The British battles in the Pacific also tied up Japanese troops that could have been used to fight the Americans.
    Perhaps. I am basing my take on comments in the book: "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by the late William Shirer. Great Britain fought admirably. They had to for the sake of their own survival. Especially the RAF. Great Britain's biggest problem was that it did not take the Nazi threat seriously until it was nearly too late.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Then again, America always has been - for most diplomatic and military purposes - an island nation. After the War of 1812, unlike almost every other nation on the planet, we've never had an enemy next door to us that could present an existential threat to our nation.
    Which is why, at first, we thought we could sit out World War 2.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Which is why, at first, we thought we could sit out World War 2.
    Very true.

    But the days when the idea of isolationism could be practically considered are long gone. If nothing else, the internet itself has put the final nail in the coffin of political isolationism.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm sorry to have been unclear. If we are going to operate as the nations we love to criticise for a lack of regard for human life, then we should own it. But the US tends to advance a superior attitude of morality. The defender of democracy, rule of law, human rights and the like. The "shinning city on a hill". The fact is that the US has used its CIA to overthrow multiple governments, usually democratic left leaning governments and replacing them with right wing dictatorships. Imperialism, hegemony, and interference in the internal affairs of other nations. War crimes, well there's been plenty posted on that here already and it's not foreign to US policy. We shouldn't dismiss this as war is hell and **** happens, otherwise we loose the right to criticise others, or to prosecute others.
    That was not my intent.

    I was trying to say that War seems inherently dirty, and any involved parties almost inevitably seem to participate in a questionable action at some point.

    Thus I dislike that it appears some are singling out the USA as the crowning example of a nation being involved in acts that are questionable or outright wrong - be they military or otherwise.
    When other nations have had and are having similar issues.

    I'm saying it all needs to be addressed.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Just saw Avengers Age of Ultron, after seeing that **** that Will guy.
    "Were going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and thats crazy." -Reagan

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