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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    We did save you during both world wars and, while we may puff our chests out annoyingly and we might overstate our relative contribution to the European front (similarly, many Europeans completely forget that WW2 had a pacific theatre in which the USA fought almost exclusively in addition to our assistance in Europe)....one cannot escape the fact that the United States did ride in on its white steed to your rescue....and keep in mind we were not directly attacked like the Russians were, we just showed up in the nick of time with the sole purpose of rescuing your ass. Had we not done so, the Germans would likely have succeeded in pressing west toward Britain.

    Now, the U.S. Has been compensated for this, as this was the rise of America as a global superpower, replacing Great Britain. However, history is what it is.
    This is wrong on so many levels... we showed up in the end of WWI after the Allies had already turned the tide of the war and in WWII the British had already turned the Nazis back in Africa, their navy had stopped the German Navy ending forever any thought of invading Britain and the Russians handled the Eastern Front almost 99% on their own.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    These types of questions are subjective on every level. To some America is an ideal, to others a system, to me it's a land that has people on it and a government, but mostly its a place. In regards to the land that is America, I think that on balance we are the greatest place on earth due to the variety of our landscapes, the fact we have preserved as much of it as we have, and the fact that we have greater access and freedom on that land (from a recreational perspective) than you will find just about anywhere else on earth. That is what is important to me personally and that is why I rank us as a great nation. I think that is the one area where we just totally kick ass as compared to the majority of other countries.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    These types of questions are subjective on every level. To some America is an ideal, to others a system, to me it's a land that has people on it and a government, but mostly its a place. In regards to the land that is America, I think that on balance we are the greatest place on earth due to the variety of our landscapes, the fact we have preserved as much of it as we have, and the fact that we have greater access and freedom on that land (from a recreational perspective) than you will find just about anywhere else on earth. That is what is important to me personally and that is why I rank us as a great nation. I think that is the one area where we just totally kick ass as compared to the majority of other countries.
    A great nation? Yes... I just find it great for white men for most of its existence. Other nations had their **** together far before the USA. New Zealand, Australia, The U.K., for example.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    It's still great in various ways.

    But (and this may be just me, although I think not) it has plenty of great flaws too.

    Problem being, we don't pay attention to the real flaws, preferring to focus on tiny problems we think will be easy to fix.

    And by "we", I mean the people in charge, in the main.


    Edit: I think one of the greatest things any country could posses would be an ability to self-examine. Not sure we have that in the USA, if we ever did.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    A great nation? Yes... I just find it great for white men for most of its existence. Other nations had their **** together far before the USA. New Zealand, Australia, The U.K., for example.
    Australia didn't end its form of Jim Crow for aboriginals until after we did. Hell half the problems we are dealing with the in world today can be traced back to the actions of the British empire.

    That all said as I stated earlier, to me America is a land more than it is an ideal, so when I compare America to other nations, I compare America the place to other places.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Australia didn't end its form of Jim Crow for aboriginals until after we did. Hell half the problems we are dealing with the in world today can be traced back to the actions of the British empire.

    That all said as I stated earlier, to me America is a land more than it is an ideal, so when I compare America to other nations, I compare America the place to other places.
    Good point. The USA is geographically the greatest in the world, that is for sure.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Good point. The USA is geographically the greatest in the world, that is for sure.
    Ultimately what is a country other than its land and how good of a job it does preserving it and ensuring its citizenry access to it? When people found a country, that is usually what they are looking for, great land.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Ultimately what is a country other than its land and how good of a job it does preserving it and ensuring its citizenry access to it? When people found a country, that is usually what they are looking for, great land.
    In some areas, especially large cities (and the associated large buildings) it is less about land and more about access to services on whatever small area you reside in/on.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    It's the heart of a thriving global empire so yes, it's the best place.

    -Western Europe and Japan come in a close 2nd and 3rd yet I still believe the US among whites is the best nation to be in. Among non-whites no, the non-white US is a hellhole (as with anywhere in the world).

    -If I were to consider living anywhere else if I had all the money in the world it'd be Sweden, Norway, Germany or Japan. Nothing else would even be considered ever.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    In some areas, especially large cities (and the associated large buildings) it is less about land and more about access to services on whatever small area you reside in/on.
    Yeah but still, what do you take pride in? Usually its the land. Public lands as in our vast National Parks and Forests are called our greatest idea. It is the one thing that we have undeniably done a better job at than any other country on earth. Regardless of whether you live in the city or in a rural area, you can strap a pack on, hit the trail in our hundreds of millions of acres of protected wildernesses and enjoy near perfect freedom. There are very few other places on earth that you can do that.
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