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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    They do not have the capabilities, the equipment, or the personnel. Other than that, they'll be fine.
    lulz

    This is an almost profoundly uninformed comment.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The small countries live in peace only because of the protection and forbearance of the big countries.
    And another one.

    You're on a roll, Jack.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    oh, FFS.

    WikiLeaks cables portray Saudi Arabia as a cash machine for terrorists | World news | The Guardian

    How ISIS Uses Oil To Fund Terror

    United States Seeks to Strangle the Islamic State's Funding - The Atlantic

    don't waste my time, Jack.

    and IS is the spawn of Al Qaeda, which had its beginnings with the Mujahideen.





    it's time to get the **** out and let the Saudis handle their own region.
    The amounts of oil and money cited in your links are mere decimal dust in the global oil trade. Al Qaeda was a group formed from foreign fighters who went to Afghanistan to fight alongside the Muj. They were not themselves Muj. By 2009 they were largely suppressed in Iraq, but the safehaven offered by a lawless Syria allowed a comeback.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    lulz

    This is an almost profoundly uninformed comment.
    Without US logistics and intel they can't move or shoot outside their immediate neighborhood.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    And another one.

    You're on a roll, Jack.
    How much respect do you suppose Putin would have for the sovereignty of the Baltic states if the US were not standing behind them?
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    'Murica!
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    'Murica!
    I know, Jack.

    I know.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The amounts of oil and money cited in your links are mere decimal dust in the global oil trade. Al Qaeda was a group formed from foreign fighters who went to Afghanistan to fight alongside the Muj. They were not themselves Muj. By 2009 they were largely suppressed in Iraq, but the safehaven offered by a lawless Syria allowed a comeback.
    another example of instability in the wake of decades of interventionism.

    and oil funds terror.

    Fueling Terror

    The Economist explains: Where Islamic State gets its money | The Economist

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    another example of instability in the wake of decades of interventionism.

    and oil funds terror.

    Fueling Terror

    The Economist explains: Where Islamic State gets its money | The Economist
    Your first link is a significantly outdated advocacy piece aiming to cut US oil consumption.

    Your second link merely documents the outlier status of ISIS, which gets its oil the old-fashioned way -- by conquering it.
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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Your first link is a significantly outdated advocacy piece aiming to cut US oil consumption.

    Your second link merely documents the outlier status of ISIS, which gets its oil the old-fashioned way -- by conquering it.
    yeah, if you're going to do your usual "dismiss the source / skim and ignore the source" routine, it's not worth my time. that isn't debate. have a good Sunday night.

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    Re: Is America the greatest Country anymore? Or do you agree with Will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yeah, if you're going to do your usual "dismiss the source / skim and ignore the source" routine, it's not worth my time. that isn't debate. have a good Sunday night.
    Sorry, but you can't pretend non-evidence is evidence. The advocacy piece was worthless from a factual point of view, and the ISIS/oil piece actually made my point, not yours. Your problem is not my debating tactic but your assertion unsupported by any factual foundation.
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