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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The TX State Guard is not a member of the US armed forces.

    Texas State Guard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    If called upon however, they are under the authority of yours truly, Barack Obama.

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    nvm **** that. But they can all, as individuals, be drafted so they're practically albeit not legally still under the command of Obama.
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    If called upon however, they are under the authority of yours truly, Barack Obama.
    Not they are not. And what does 'several' states refer to?

    Obama is not thought of in a good light here in TX. He calls fro Martial law and he's in for a fight.
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I see problems arising with this being a non-traditional exercise where some of the troops may be wearing civilian clothing and driving civilian vehicles.

    The military's 'need' to do this sort of training after real life experiences in large ME cities is somewhat suspicious. HELM meaning "Homeland eradication of local militants is downright scary IMO. Who are these 'militants'?

    If I see someone trying to 'blend in' to my environment, I might have to personally address it.
    Isn't that just what Abbott is doing?
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Not they are not. And what does 'several' states refer to?

    Obama is not thought of in a good light here in TX. He calls fro Martial law and he's in for a fight.
    My bad read edit, it was meant practically not legally. Sorry for misunderstanding.
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    This Operation Jade Helm 15 map shows the two reddest states as being HOSTILE. [politically non-aligned] HMMM??

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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Isn't that just what Abbott is doing?
    Yep. The fact the Governor is addressing this is quite telling.

    This was announced months ago and quickly became a 'nut-job conspiracy theory'. Abbott is validating it as being a concern.
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Which are the 'several' states referred to in the 2nd clause of article two. Guessing not all.
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How could asking volunteers to monitor (observe?) anything be unconstitutional? The governor is not ordering any action or even spending any additional funds - this is simply to appease concerned citizens who have been upset by the content of some fairly fringe websites. The training exercise is taking place on US terrain similar to foreign lands (Iran?).
    I suppose that one could construe the governor's intent in making such an order to the militia to be a challenge to the power of the President of the United States. Although that would be a stretch in this instance, that is an argument that could be made.

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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Haven't you heard? Nobody pays attention to that Constitution thingy anymore.
    Yep. That and they construe the words to mean whatever suits their interests at the time. At the end of the day it boils down to who has power and who doesn't.

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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    The last part of the statement is important.
    Yes it is. As things stand now in terms of the Constitution, IF the President deemed there was an emergency and martial law needed to be implemented in Texas, only the Supreme Court could say that the President was in violation of the Constitution by doing so.

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    In addition the Texas Governor is the commander and chief of the Texas Military,
    (Which I think is now only the Texas Rangers).
    The Texas Rangers were not charged with making the observations in this instance. Furthermore, it is my understanding that the Texas Rangers are not Texas defense force in the sense a defense force that is used to protect the sovereignty of the State.

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