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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Sure, why not. Checks and balances.
    What about Article 2, section 2, clause 1. The President is supposed to be the Commander in Chief of the state militias.

    Article Two of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    We do not have to suppose anything, the federal Government did declare martial law during reconstruction.
    One of the first things they did, was put in their own Governor.
    In response the Governors office was stripped of most of it's real authority.
    So what is your point?

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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    An interesting question of constitutional law. Does the governor of Texas have the right to order a volunteer state militia to monitor Federal troops to ensure there is no hostile intent?



    Texas Governor Tells State Guard to Monitor Army Training - ABC News
    How could asking volunteers to monitor (observe?) anything be unconstitutional? The governor is not ordering any action or even spending any additional funds - this is simply to appease concerned citizens who have been upset by the content of some fairly fringe websites. The training exercise is taking place on US terrain similar to foreign lands (Iran?).
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What about Article 2, section 2, clause 1. The President is supposed to be the Commander in Chief of the state militias.

    Article Two of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Haven't you heard? Nobody pays attention to that Constitution thingy anymore.

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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    The TX State Guard is not a member of the US armed forces.

    Texas State Guard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What about Article 2, section 2, clause 1. The President is supposed to be the Commander in Chief of the state militias.

    Article Two of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The last part of the statement is important.
    The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;
    In addition the Texas Governor is the commander and chief of the Texas Military,
    (Which I think is now only the Texas Rangers).

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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    The last part of the statement is important.
    when called into the actual Service of the United States;
    In addition the Texas Governor is the commander and chief of the Texas Military,
    (Which I think is now only the Texas Rangers).
    It is odd that someone had to point that out.
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    So what is your point?
    Your question back on post #4 was,
    Let's suppose that Federal government was planning to implement martial law in Texas. Would he be within his constitutional rights to have the militia report to him about Federal troop activity so that he could devise plans to obstruct such an endeavor?
    The last time they declared martial law in Texas, they replaced the Governor first.
    It appears the federal government was a bit concerned about the authority of the Governor!

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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How could asking volunteers to monitor (observe?) anything be unconstitutional? The governor is not ordering any action or even spending any additional funds - this is simply to appease concerned citizens who have been upset by the content of some fairly fringe websites. The training exercise is taking place on US terrain similar to foreign lands (Iran?).
    I see problems arising with this being a non-traditional exercise where some of the troops may be wearing civilian clothing and driving civilian vehicles.

    The military's 'need' to do this sort of training after real life experiences in large ME cities is somewhat suspicious. HELM meaning "Homeland eradication of local militants is downright scary IMO. Who are these 'militants'?

    If I see someone trying to 'blend in' to my environment, I might have to personally address it.
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    Re: Does a state governor have the Constitutional right to monitor Federal troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What about Article 2, section 2, clause 1. The President is supposed to be the Commander in Chief of the state militias.

    Article Two of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    He is only CiC if he calls them into service for the United States. Has he done so? No. Therefor the CiC of the state militia is currently the governor.
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