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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    again you provide nothing to back up your case.
    Calling the US constitution NOTHING is delusional.

    Calling historical examples of the vote NOTHING is delusional.

    Calling the Sixth Amendment NOTHING is delusional.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    While unlikely anytime too soon, it's not unthinkable that one day, Texas might vote to secede from the United States and re-establish itself as an independent nation.

    If done in a peaceful and democratic manner...that is, if the people of Texas overwhelmingly voted to withdraw from the U.S. In a referendum similar to the one recently held in Scotland, would you support the right of Texas to go her own way?
    absolutely!!!!! we have a constitution which guarantees texas the right to seceed, or any other state. As a sworn defender of the constitution of the united snakes i must support texas' right to seceed.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is nothing defective other than you not recognizing the evidence I presented and trying to perpetrate a fraud in saying it is not there in the first place.

    Your intentional rejection of the Constitutional and historical evidence I have presented shows that the reference to Mises and his mental disorder that some libertarians mimic is perfectly applicable.


    for you to bring libertarianism into the conversation is a complete deflection because you have nothing to put forth, ..you cant produce anything........its a riot

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Calling the US constitution NOTHING is delusional.

    Calling historical examples of the vote NOTHING is delusional.

    Calling the Sixth Amendment NOTHING is delusional.
    ...nothing ...a deflection

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong.........all three amendments grant a power to congress to write federal legislation,prohibit, the u.s. or states from denying the vote..because of race-color- sex- age.

    here is the power in each clause:

    The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
    Wrong you say? Perhaps you should complain then to this site (where I copied and pasted the sentence from)

    Welcome to OurDocuments.gov

    It is a official website it even has the .gov thing going. So should listen to some guy on the internet or a official government website?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Wrong you say? Perhaps you should complain then to this site (where I copied and pasted the sentence from)

    Welcome to OurDocuments.gov

    It is a official website it even has the .gov thing going. So should listen to some guy on the internet or a official government website?
    if you are going to post a site, you need to focus on what you are trying to prove........its like hay saying "yes the government can do that"....and when asked where it is...he says "its in the constitution", which is vague, as you are now.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by hado117 View Post
    absolutely!!!!! we have a constitution which guarantees texas the right to seceed, or any other state. As a sworn defender of the constitution of the united snakes i must support texas' right to seceed.
    Bwhahaha you are going to support defending the US COnstitution by supporting Texas going against the Constitution? I dont think that you even understand what you just said. State secession is a decree by State government asserting that they refuse that the US Constitution is the law of the land, they want to remove US Constitution and wish to leave it behind.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if you are going to post a site, you need to focus on what you are trying to prove........its like hay saying "yes the government can do that"....and when asked where it is...he says "its in the constitution", which is vague, as you are now.
    The link and the quote was there dont pretend that it wasnt that would be entirely dishonest of you.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    The link and the quote was there dont pretend that it wasnt that would be entirely dishonest of you.
    from your own post:

    The 19th amendment guarantees all American women the right to vote.


    MY POSTED LINK

    19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Women's Right to Vote

    passed by Congress June 4, 1919, and ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th amendment guarantees all American women the right to vote. Achieving this milestone required a lengthy and difficult struggle; victory took decades of agitation and protest. Beginning in the mid-19th century, several generations of woman suffrage supporters lectured, wrote, marched, lobbied, and practiced civil disobedience to achieve what many Americans considered a radical change of the Constitution. Few early supporters lived to see final victory in 1920.


    The 19th Amendment clarified that the right to vote could not be denied any citizen of the United States based on sex. Let's take a look at the lengthy and arduous path traveled by women seeking not only the right to vote, but also acknowledgment of citizenship.

    http://study.com/academy/lesson/what...-ratified.html


    19TH AMENDMENT SUMMARY


    The Nineteenth Amendment is all about giving women the opportunity to vote. In the 1830's, a lot of women went through a lot just to get this amendment ratified. They marched, wrote, and lectured to accomplish what many people thought wasn't possible. It was really hard for them because a lot of people, especially men, thought that all they should do was cook and do house work. The women thought that if they could get educated, then why couldn't they vote? So, they fought and fought until it was finally introduced to Congress in 1878. It was finally ratified in 1920.
    http://usconstitution22.blogspot.com...02/post-2.html


    What Does the 19th Amendment Cover?
    The 19th amendment covers voting rights. Specifically, the amendment guarantees voting rights for women citizens of the United States. The amendment was officially ratified in the year 1920, and it was supported by various lobbying groups and leaders. Subsequent court cases upheld the constitutionality of the amendment and guaranteed voting rights for all U.S. citizens, regardless of their gender.

    - See more at: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-librar....MkPs0wwU.dpuf
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post


    for you to bring libertarianism into the conversation is a complete deflection because you have nothing to put forth, ..you cant produce anything........its a riot
    Your declared ideology is that of a RIGHT LIBERTARIAN. It is in every single post you make here. To acknowledge that and to acknowledge your tactics of denying the reality of the evidence I have presented and then to provide a third party source identifying such tactics as part and parcel of a libertarian mindset which is part of a mental disorder that has the person deny reality - is 100% appropriate when you continue to employ it like you just did again.
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