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Thread: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Those that think that secession is the way to fix anything, dont understand at all what the Constitution created. Nor do they understand the philosophy behind the US Constitution. But lets be honest the secessionists only see the US Constitution as a roadblock to their fantasies of imposing their will on all Americans. That is the point of neo-Confederates; domination once and for all.
    or they might see it as the Constitution being perverted beyond recognition and figure there's little to be done except to leave.

    or maybe they just like the idea of governing themselves on a much more local basis without interference and mandates coming from folks who do have nothing to do with their state.

    or maybe...they just like their independence more than they like being part of a dispassionate union.

    or maybe..blablablabla

    ...speculating motives is an endless endeavor.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Or maybe they just don't like America that much and would rather be a separate country.

    And it is almost impossible for you to prove otherwise.
    Same thing.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    This thread fascinates mostly because:::::::


    -It totally ignores Generational Democratic Party, Pro-Union regions of Texas that would never secede "peacefully"

    -It 100% ignores basic Texas economic facts that make secession entirely illogical to even the most stubborn person

    -It 100% ignores the fact that the US would never allow this to occur

    -It 100% ignores that the Rich Oil and Business interests that run Texas would never allow this to occur

    -It presumes that Texas is this rural "Jesus Bastion of Yesteryear" which it is extremely far from. One wonders what "Texas" these people even live in.


    I can't tell if this is a rich banker kids wet dream thread who drank a tad too much scotch or some rural cowboy religious Jesus yesteryear thread or some mix of both.
    Last edited by Ryan5; 05-14-15 at 02:28 AM.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    or they might see it as the Constitution being perverted beyond recognition and figure there's little to be done except to leave.

    or maybe they just like the idea of governing themselves on a much more local basis without interference and mandates coming from folks who do have nothing to do with their state.

    or maybe...they just like their independence more than they like being part of a dispassionate union.

    or maybe..blablablabla

    ...speculating motives is an endless endeavor.
    Who's speculating? The point of the Constitution is that it forms a Union. All this talk about the "Constitution being perverted beyond recognition" is double talk. You cant be supporting the Constitution while asserting to destroy the union. That line is just a lie and a excuse.


    Either way you paint it secessionists are anti-American and should be shot for being the treasonists that they are IMO.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    This thread fascinates mostly because:::::::


    -It totally ignores Generational Democratic Party, Pro-Union regions of Texas that would never secede "peacefully"

    -It 100% ignores basic Texas economic facts that make secession entirely illogical to even the most stubborn person

    -It 100% ignores the fact that the US would never allow this to occur

    -It 100% ignores that the Rich Oil and Business interests that run Texas would never allow this to occur

    -It presumes that Texas is this rural "Jesus Bastion of Yesteryear" which it is extremely far from. One wonders what "Texas" these people even live in.
    say something new... you've said the same **** over and over and over.. and all of it 100% ignores the hypothetical posed in the OP.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Same thing.
    Except I just put forth an idea...you put forth an idea in a matter-of-fact manner.

    Were I to do the latter, I would want proof of my matter-of-fact statement before uttering/typing it.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Who's speculating? The point of the Constitution is that it forms a Union. All this talk about the "Constitution being perverted beyond recognition" is double talk. You cant be supporting the Constitution while asserting to destroy the union. That line is just a lie and a excuse.


    Either way you paint it secessionists are anti-American and should be shot for being the treasonists that they are IMO.


    you were speculating...unless you are now claiming you are a mindreader.... is that what you are claiming?

    i'm not "asserting to destroy the union"... that's a position you have inaccurately assigned to me in direct contravention to my actual position and words.

    grab your gun and get to secessionist huntin', tough guy ...there's secessionist all over this country, so ..well.. good luck and happy hunting.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Don't resist arrest and you wont be shot. If a legislature tries to break away from the Union, if 'militia' tried to seize government property, if anything at all that smacks of treasonous secession is in the air then yes they are going to be arrested and stamped out by the authorities. This is purely the realm of fantasy but it's always fun to burst the illusions of would be secessionists: If you try and secede get ready to die.
    Its fantasy to think that the us govt would be seen on camera killing peaceful neighbors. Look at Baltimore. The mayor didnt send in police because they knew they would be filmed cracking skulls, and those protestors were violent.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    "If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede." ~ Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

    Texas won't be leaving the union. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

    Wait and see.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Polls dont really mean much especially when they are the fruit of the media.
    In that we agree, but it still indicates a trend.

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