View Poll Results: Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon

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Thread: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    they drew them from the law of nature.

    its natural to speak - pray - protest - associate - self-defense, be secure in ones self, among many others.
    natural law lets you do whatever you have the power to get away with and as an extension of that rights are made up and only exist as long as the power to imagine and enforce them exist

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    your not a citizen if you brake away from the nation
    constitutional law does not apply to Citizens....only federal law does....please show in constitutional law, where it can be used on a Citizen.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the constitution states to levy war....and to aid ..that means to impose a war on the u.s....secession is not imposing a war on the u.s.

    a state by leaving the union is not attempting to over throw the federal government
    its other throwing the federal governed over the local state which dose not require violence

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    natural law lets you do whatever you have the power to get away with and as an extension of that rights are made up and only exist as long as the power to imagine and enforce them exist
    You have obviously read a great deal about natural law.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    natural law lets you do whatever you have the power to get away with and as an extension of that rights are made up and only exist as long as the power to imagine and enforce them exist
    natural law means you have many many rights that follow nature, but those rights cannot infringe into the natural rights of other people...which is why i have said many times.....you cannot exercise a right on another Citizen.

    rights exist always....but whether they are secure is another matter.......so we instituted our government to secure them.

    if rights did not need to be secured...no government would be necessary

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You have obviously read a great deal about natural law.
    what's to read that's nature it includes every action we invented rights to protect against and we invented them because nature allows them

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    natural law means you have many many rights that follow nature, but those rights cannot infringe into the natural rights of other people...which is why i have said many times.....you cannot exercise a right on another Citizen.

    rights exist always....but whether they are secure is another matter.......so we instituted our government to secure them.

    if rights did not need to be secured...no government would be necessary
    more made up stuff

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    its other throwing the federal governed over the local state which dose not require violence
    the federal government is not over state governments.......we have federalism, the separation of powers.

    the states created the constitution, and the constitution created the federal government, its not the other way around.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    natural law means you have many many rights that follow nature, but those rights cannot infringe into the natural rights of other people...which is why i have said many times.....you cannot exercise a right on another Citizen.

    rights exist always....but whether they are secure is another matter.......so we instituted our government to secure them.

    if rights did not need to be secured...no government would be necessary
    if rights did not need to be secured then they actually would be natural

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    what's to read that's nature it includes every action we invented rights to protect against and we invented them because nature allows them
    I would advise you start reading because that is not even close to right.

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