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Thread: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I have. Multiple times. Rights are created by society and the ability of society to sustain them. Absent the order and protection of society there are no rights save those which you can seize for yourself. Further you fundamentally misunderstand what the Court does and where its basis for interpretation comes from. I suggest you read up more on the subject.
    you have done nothing........where are rights granted?... show it to me...........

    the constitution states plainly in it powers are granted to the federal government.....where are rights granted?

    rights are not created by people.....because they is no law in u.s. history which has granted the people a right.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Oh it most certainly is. We were merely merciful when we chose to forego treason charges against members of the so called Confederate government.

    oh no its not...treason is to impose a war on the u.s. by citizens or to aid an enemy of the u.s.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Are you serious? In this age of cameras everywhere, you think killing and imprisoning american who are peacefully non complying wouldnt look bad on TV? Do you think the military would accept an order to kill Texans who resisted? It didnt work with that farmer in the midwest who resisted the police with guns on horses. Because there were cameras.
    Don't resist arrest and you wont be shot. If a legislature tries to break away from the Union, if 'militia' tried to seize government property, if anything at all that smacks of treasonous secession is in the air then yes they are going to be arrested and stamped out by the authorities. This is purely the realm of fantasy but it's always fun to burst the illusions of would be secessionists: If you try and secede get ready to die.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Don't resist arrest and you wont be shot. If a legislature tries to break away from the Union, if 'militia' tried to seize government property, if anything at all that smacks of treasonous secession is in the air then yes they are going to be arrested and stamped out by the authorities. This is purely the realm of fantasy but it's always fun to burst the illusions of would be secessionists: If you try and secede get ready to die.
    you have got your wires crossed


    insurrections of a state government the federal government has authority to quell.

    secession is not an insurrection

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Are you serious? When did anyone argue that the court is a law making body? The role of the Supreme Court is to discern what is and what is not in accord with the Constitution. That being said the Supreme Court has certainly 'created' law at various times in its history even if we choose not to call it that. Some scholars will go so far as to say that Brown v. Board was essentially a time of dejure 'Constitutional Amendment' due to the nature of the decision, the way it was organized, and its colossal impact.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Don't resist arrest and you wont be shot. If a legislature tries to break away from the Union, if 'militia' tried to seize government property, if anything at all that smacks of treasonous secession is in the air then yes they are going to be arrested and stamped out by the authorities. This is purely the realm of fantasy but it's always fun to burst the illusions of would be secessionists: If you try and secede get ready to die.

    a person who does not believe in self- government

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Yes indeed, so you feel that the right of self-determination was OK in 1776, but that since 1787-89 this right should no longer apply.
    since we have what the people in 1776 wanted yes until such time as that's no longer the case

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    LOLOLOLOL, that's a court decision, not a constitutional amendment!! Geez, dude, if you're going to try to play games with me, at least get your terminology right. Then maybe someday, you can upgrade to getting all the facts right!



    Ah yes, the obligatory hideous grammar and spelling. Reminds me of this:

    hey now hideous grammar and spelling is a specialty o mine and im not like that at all and you can be way to religious and handle language just fine

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if the state takes a vote, then all of the people have the right to vote in the way they desire...no one is being denied..their voice is being heard.

    if a convention is held, the people vote for a person they wish to represent them at the convention ..so the people are being represented by the person of their choice their voice is being heard.

    when the constitution was ratified it was by convention..the people were represented.
    then by that principle either leaving the union is not justified when you have representation or else your representation no longer binds you when you feel its not working for you

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    since we have what the people in 1776 wanted yes until such time as that's no longer the case
    did you know that the declaration of independence lays the founding principles of america, and that u.s. federal law recognizes those principles.

    one principle being self -government.

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