View Poll Results: Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the point is... The courts recognizes rights.....the court is not a law making body.

    The right to privacy which the court recognized, was not created by the congress via law.

    Rights are not created by law

    again...where are rights granted to you......show me!
    Are you serious? When did anyone argue that the court is a law making body? The role of the Supreme Court is to discern what is and what is not in accord with the Constitution. That being said the Supreme Court has certainly 'created' law at various times in its history even if we choose not to call it that. Some scholars will go so far as to say that Brown v. Board was essentially a time of dejure 'Constitutional Amendment' due to the nature of the decision, the way it was organized, and its colossal impact.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Not if that state was plotting to secede, lol. If it was we'd crush whoever took it as a 'battle cry'. Keep dreaming.
    oh you think people in in northern states are not going to become angry.

    the first time, the federal government locks people of a state up or kills people of states..........will signal the beginning of the end of the federal government

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong!

    the 14th amendment states that state governments will not bridge the privilege and immunities and the rights of people, by granting congress the power to write federal legislation...to prohibit such action by a state.
    The 14th Amendment began the process of incorporating the Bill of Rights onto the states, the incorporation doctrine springs in large part from the Due Process clauses. This is Con Law 101.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh you think people in in northern states are not going to become angry.

    the first time, the federal government locks people of a state up or kills people of states..........will signal the beginning of the end of the federal government
    No. We hate secession and treason. Like most people.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    That is ignorant, the State is not the people, the State only represents the people. And no I dont believe your made up poll.
    One in four Americans want their state to secede from the U.S., but why?

    If youre just going to insult me though, we're done.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Are you serious? When did anyone argue that the court is a law making body? The role of the Supreme Court is to discern what is and what is not in accord with the Constitution. That being said the Supreme Court has certainly 'created' law at various times in its history even if we choose not to call it that. Some scholars will go so far as to say that Brown v. Board was essentially a time of dejure 'Constitutional Amendment' due to the nature of the decision, the way it was organized, and its colossal impact.
    if the court recognizes rights, then rights are not created by law......

    again where are rights granted....show me!

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    No. We hate secession and treason. Like most people.
    secession is not treason.....try again.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if the court recognizes rights, then rights are not created by law......

    again where are rights granted....show me!
    I have. Multiple times. Rights are created by society and the ability of society to sustain them. Absent the order and protection of society there are no rights save those which you can seize for yourself. Further you fundamentally misunderstand what the Court does and where its basis for interpretation comes from. I suggest you read up more on the subject.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    secession is not treason.....try again.
    Oh it most certainly is. We were merely merciful when we chose to forego treason charges against members of the so called Confederate government.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Are you serious? We lit Georgia on fire over secession and you think the Federal Government would "cut its own throat" by arresting people who attempt secession/rebellion?
    Are you serious? In this age of cameras everywhere, you think killing and imprisoning american who are peacefully non complying wouldnt look bad on TV? Do you think the military would accept an order to kill Texans who resisted? It didnt work with that farmer in the midwest who resisted the police with guns on horses. Because there were cameras.

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