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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You know what?

    That is an excellent point. Namely, that if Texas were to be allowed to secede, and if it were to secede, the cartels would plunge the state into a war zone.

    The states that didn't secede wouldn't have to fire a shot. Texas would self-destruct within years, maybe months.
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    second point to be examined is, whether the [constitutional ]convention were authorized to frame and propose this mixed Constitution.


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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the constitution does not work that way....
    Don't even try that crap with me, son. Texas v. White.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Don't even try that crap with me, son. Texas v. White.
    oh, you cite a constitutional amendment...one is not needed, because the federal government has no such power per the constitution...

    and iam to old to me your son.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh, you cite a constitutional amendment
    LOLOLOLOL, that's a court decision, not a constitutional amendment!! Geez, dude, if you're going to try to play games with me, at least get your terminology right. Then maybe someday, you can upgrade to getting all the facts right!

    and iam to old to me your son.
    Ah yes, the obligatory hideous grammar and spelling. Reminds me of this:

    Last edited by Phys251; 05-13-15 at 09:37 AM. Reason: No way I can let such stellar Engrish [sic] go!

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    LOLOLOLOL, that's a court decision, not a constitutional amendment!! Geez, dude, if you're going to try to play games with me, at least get your terminology right. Then maybe someday, you can upgrade to getting all the facts right!
    guy... iam talking about your first post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I support a constitutional amendment to establish procedures for peaceful secession.

    And until such an amendment is enacted, there exists no procedure by which any state may ever leave the Union for any reason whatsoever.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    guy... iam talking about your first post.
    The "I don't know how to use the quote button properly" defense? Oh man, let's see...so far, you have:

    -Failed to discern the difference between a constitutional amendment and a Supreme Court decision, a distinction I learned in the seventh grade; (EDIT: OK so now you're backtracking and failing to discern between a hypothetical amendment and an existing amendment. OK now we're down to elementary grade level skills.)
    -Failed to use basic spelling and grammar that a fourth grader would be expected to know;
    -Failed to figure out which post you're actually responding to.

    All of that in just three posts! Keep it up, man, you're on a roll!

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The "I don't know how to use the quote button properly" defense? Oh man, let's see...so far, you have:

    -Failed to discern the difference between a constitutional amendment and a Supreme Court decision, a distinction I learned in the seventh grade;
    -Failed to use basic spelling and grammar that a fourth grader would be expected to know;
    -Failed to figure out which post you're actually responding to.

    All of that in just three posts! Keep it up, man, you're on a roll!
    ..you are an embarrassment...and you fall in the jet57 class
    Last edited by Master PO; 05-13-15 at 09:45 AM.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    since the people of the state choose to leave how are they ignoring the will of the people.

    the people of 1 state do not bow to the will of the people of another state.

    Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act.

    wrong......nothing can be dictatorial on secession.... if the people hold a convention, or a vote is put to the people
    SO I guess you are ok with people bowing to other people within the State.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    SO I guess you are ok with people bowing to other people within the State.
    if the state takes a vote, then all of the people have the right to vote in the way they desire...no one is being denied..their voice is being heard.

    if a convention is held, the people vote for a person they wish to represent them at the convention ..so the people are being represented by the person of their choice their voice is being heard.

    when the constitution was ratified it was by convention..the people were represented.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if the state takes a vote, then all of the people have the right to vote in the way they desire...no one is being denied..their voice is being heard.

    if a convention is held, the people vote for a person they wish to represent them at the convention ..so the people are being represented by the person of their choice their voice is being heard.

    when the constitution was ratified it was by convention..the people were represented.
    So then if there is a convention (or a vote) that decides that we are all slaves then you are good with that?

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