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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im just having a debate. I have been calm and civil the entire time. Meanwhile you are laughing, swearing, writing with a condescending tone, attacking me personally, and implying physical threats. I realize youre being rhetorical, and would be happy to continue the debate in a civil manner.
    Then by all means report my posts that you feel need reported.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Then by all means report my posts that you feel need reported.
    I dont feel the need for the Man to be involved unless the offense is great. Im asking nicely.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I dont feel the need for the Man to be involved unless the offense is great. Im asking nicely.
    What exactly is it that I said that hurt you?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    What exactly is it that I said that hurt you?
    Nothing, I just dont find it entertaining to have a debate with someone being uncivil.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Nothing, I just dont find it entertaining to have a debate with someone being uncivil.
    You want to break up America yet see me as being uncivil lol.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    You want to break up America yet see me as being uncivil lol.
    Im having a debate, expressing an opinion. Read the forum rules.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im having a debate, expressing an opinion. Read the forum rules.
    FFS dude cry to a mod, or get a tissue. My point was that I wasnt uncivil at all in this thread, and that if a minority group actually tried to get a state to secede that they would be treated as the anti- American neo-confederates that they are. Most people know that many in the military have given their all for this country and that any actual secession attempt would be met most likely violently by actual patriotic citizens Defending the good ole USA from domestic threats. That is one of the points of our second amendment rights. The secessionist would be shut down in less than a day by Americans.


    But apparently to you this argument is being uncivil. Boy you are in for a shock if you ever try secession.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    FFS dude cry to a mod, or get a tissue. My point was that I wasnt uncivil at all in this thread, and that if a minority group actually tried to get a state to secede that they would be treated as the anti- American neo-confederates that they are. Most people know that many in the military have given their all for this country and that any actual secession attempt would be met most likely violently by actual patriotic citizens Defending the good ole USA from domestic threats. That is one of the points of our second amendment rights. The secessionist would be shut down in less than a day by Americans.


    But apparently to you this argument is being uncivil. Boy you are in for a shock if you ever try secession.
    See, you just cant avoid making it personal.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    See, you just cant avoid making it personal.
    Personal lol I guess that you where your heart on your sleeve.

    What is wrong with having a Federal Government?

    Once a State secedes it is the sole government, it has none of the checks and balances enforced by the US Constitution/Federal Government. It would be a government exactly in the form that you seem to fear. If a individual State secedes (take Texas as a example) its government would be very powerful locally. All the Federal laws and rules would be gone. The State Government could do whatever it wanted to do with anything standing its way. If a county or town objected there would be no recourse.
    The State Government becomes a dictatorship overnight and voting power or representational powers are lost to the people of that State. You could say that nothing would change but that would be entirely dishonest or naive. The State would be free to make massive governmental changes with powers already invested in the States government. The people could object but it would be too late. Most likely the state would be acting on decree until the transformation was complete. But all that would cause a civil war to quickly break out. After thousands of lives were lost and the region starts becoming unstable enough for neighboring States to be affected the US government would sweep in and restore order. And then the tribunals would begin. ANd for a while during the reconstruction period Texas would be far worse off than they are now in their relationship with the Federal government.

    SO State secession is a pipe dream void of all reality.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Personal lol I guess that you where your heart on your sleeve.

    What is wrong with having a Federal Government?

    Once a State secedes it is the sole government, it has none of the checks and balances enforced by the US Constitution/Federal Government. It would be a government exactly in the form that you seem to fear. If a individual State secedes (take Texas as a example) its government would be very powerful locally. All the Federal laws and rules would be gone. The State Government could do whatever it wanted to do with anything standing its way. If a county or town objected there would be no recourse.
    The State Government becomes a dictatorship overnight and voting power or representational powers are lost to the people of that State. You could say that nothing would change but that would be entirely dishonest or naive. The State would be free to make massive governmental changes with powers already invested in the States government. The people could object but it would be too late. Most likely the state would be acting on decree until the transformation was complete. But all that would cause a civil war to quickly break out. After thousands of lives were lost and the region starts becoming unstable enough for neighboring States to be affected the US government would sweep in and restore order. And then the tribunals would begin. ANd for a while during the reconstruction period Texas would be far worse off than they are now in their relationship with the Federal government.

    SO State secession is a pipe dream void of all reality.
    Hypotheticals are by definition void of all reality.

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