Large portions of Texas are generational-Hard-Blue-Democrat-Voters with openly professed deep animosities towards Texas GOP. They will never leave the US. So the premise that they'd somehow "Change their minds and join their loathed GOP enemies" is deeply flawed and deceptive.
The thread premise is the equivalent to believing that Los Angeles and San Francisco would choose to secede from the US with California conservatives. This is outright deception.
Now that said, I (personally) believe and have always believed that in the next 100 years for sure racially and politically polarized Southern and Western states such as Texas, California, Arizona and a few others will have massive geopolitical-racial turmoil to say the least that may make the premise of this thread irrelevant frankly. There may be a much more bloody US civil war x2 that makes this thread and the idea of secession largely irrelevant. I seriously believe this is not just possible but likely in next 100 years.
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Anti-Democracy advocate, Mixed government is the only good government
THE second point to be examined is, whether the [constitutional ]convention were authorized to frame and propose this mixed Constitution.
Well and you're a perfect example of the type of person I mean to showcase as who exists in Southern states like Texas. Hard Right and Hard left and little to nothing in between. Those are also split racially near perfectly in accordance with left and right, which is why I do believe a US civil war is likely in said Southern states. (to which who knows what would happen, certainly Texas wouldn't secede, yet I imagine the country may never recover in terms of internal harmony seeing as I surmise that this civil war would be along racial lines instead of political ones ultimately.
The thread premise is silly though. Texas either way will always be part of US and if it ever did secede the US would simply kill all the secessionists and retake the US.
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States like Texas and California where you have truisms such as "White = GOP, Left = Mexican/Hispanic" and that's actually how it is statistically overall, that presents immense problems in the future for America. I don't think those rifts will end up in peace. The American South, South West politics are extremely polarized and factionalized along racial economic lines. Those generational blue Hispanics aren't going to all become GOP nor are the white generational GOP becoming democrats and what this means is likely a civil war in the future in the South West and South and in California that, in my opinion, will end up being largely racial with in the end the US coming out of that civil war a very different nation and people.
I do not believe that it will be an issue of secession. I believe what in the next 50-100 years you will have is states like California, Arizona and Texas as well as potentially others engaged in "Internal Class/Racial civil wars" that fundamentally change the country. I also believe the factions of that future South/SouthWest civil war aren't yet necessarily in existence which is why speaking about it now is somewhat convoluted admittedly.
To give you an idea of just what I mean. Imagine how Hard Red, how fanatically conservative even your average Texas or Arizona GOP person is. Now speed up 50 years into future when Texas and Arizona are 68-70% lower class Mexican and those middle + upper class GOP people are even more conservative. I think you can begin to imagine how untenable that situation will be.
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