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Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon


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when a right is recognized all that means is some one thinks you should have that right its made up

well tell me, if that were to happen and people just think things up, why is there no right to food water shelter since people have the power to think them up.

as stated rights are recognized, they are not created by law because law is made by man, if man could create his own rights, then man can control rights.

many of you on this forum, believe rights are created by man, but you seem to always forget that IF you have the power to create you have the power to destroy also.

for the power of rights created to be in the hands of man, would be the most dangerous of thing, for it will lead to our destruction., and those that subscribe to this notion are setting a path for the destruction.
 
Are we talking about the real Constitution or the imaginary one you pretend you know about? Many of your posts remind me of a gentleman I met at a Tea Party rally at the Michigan state capitol when I was working there. He said he personally accepts no changes to the Constitution after the adoption of the 12th Amendment. I asked him how that denial of reality impacted his own life and he looked at me with a deer in the headlights look on his face.

tea party now.....:lamo..before if was libertarianism.......

it is so easy to see you constant desperation on threads.:2razz:
 
Pointless laughter with no intelligent response seems to be the standard MO of the delusional. Thank you for confirming that.

i cannot help but laugh at statements of yours..


bye the way THANKS...for the MO <-----complement.

when i see people doing what i do, it makes me happy;)
 
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tea party now.....:lamo..before if was libertarianism.......

it is so easy to see you constant desperation on threads.:2razz:

Your post makes no rational sense to the post of my you pretend to be replying to.
 
i cannot help but laugh at statements of yours..

now all I have to do is repeat my post that you pretended to reply to


Quote Originally Posted by haymarket
Pointless laughter with no intelligent response seems to be the standard MO of the delusional. Thank you for confirming that.
 
Your post makes no rational sense to the post of my you pretend to be replying to.

when you cannot stay on subject, and have to divert to libertarianism, tea party, this tells me you are frustrated and desperate to post something and make yourself feel better.
 
now all I have to do is repeat my post that you pretended to reply to


when you cannot stay on subject, and have to divert to libertarianism, tea party, this tells me you are frustrated and desperate to post something and make yourself feel better.
 
The Power of the 19th Amendment, Then and Now

The Power of the 19th Amendment, Then and Now*|*Jason Ritchie

Today is Women's Equality Day, which marks the 94th anniversary of the 19th Amendment that guaranteed women the right to vote. It was the culmination of a long struggle by generations of women who fought for equal access to the promise of the American Dream. The right to vote, they believed, was the main hurdle in the way of equality. Once political equality was achieved, social and economic equality would soon follow. Despite the myriad of successes women have achieved since then, true equality remains a distant dream.

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The 19th Amendment, guaranteeing women the right to vote,
is formally adopted into the U.S. Constitution by proclamation of Secretary of State Bainbridge Colby. The amendment was the culmination of more than 70 years of struggle by woman suffragists. Its two sections read simply: “The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex” and “Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”
 
when you cannot stay on subject, and have to divert to libertarianism, tea party, this tells me you are frustrated and desperate to post something and make yourself feel better.

On the contrary - I am having a good old time exposing your nonsense. :cool:

You are just embarrassed you got caught in your own trap.
 
sorry, when you have to talk about things which are not part of the discussion...its means simply......you have run out of an argument, and have folded your cards;)

It is beyond funny how you pretend you can try to exchange barbs and quips with me like you did moments ago only to get skewered by me trying your own post right back at you like the laughter comments climaxing in 982 where you step right into it. Then all the sudden its this phony 'but... but ... but ... you're not staying on topic... and that's not playing fair' whining and crying and sobbing.

Its beyond hilarious.
 
... I ignore that "reality" because i'm sticking to the hypothetical posed in the OP.... and well, I'm not a bloodthirsty warmonger.

this isn't rocket science.

The hypothetical in the OP only states that the people of Texas by referendum might vote to secede in some distant make believe future. It said just like in Scotland. Well Texas is not just like Scotland by any stretch of imagination. The dynamics of UK politics is a lot different than US politics.

Last year the most predominate secessionist ran for the Governors office. He couldnt make it past the Republican primaries. He got only 1.4% (19,022) of the vote. Good ole Larry SECEDE Kilgore is a radical and the poster boy for the Texas secession movement.

That is great that you personally are not a warmonger. But you can only speak for yourself. The actual Texans obsessed with secession are a bit more committed than you are.
 
It is beyond funny how you pretend you can try to exchange barbs and quips with me like you did moments ago only to get skewered by me trying your own post right back at you like the laughter comments climaxing in 982 where you step right into it. Then all the sudden its this phony 'but... but ... but ... you're not staying on topic... and that's not playing fair' whining and crying and sobbing.

Its beyond hilarious.

yes it is for you, that you would have to bring the tea party and libertarianism into this thread which has nothing to do with those two things, but instead made you feel better about yourself.

you seem to do these things from time to time.....jump into different areas which are not being discussed, but i have become accustomed to it but it still makes me laugh when i see it.:2razz:
 
yes it is for you, that you would have to bring the tea party and libertarianism into this thread which has nothing to do with those two things, but instead made you feel better about yourself.

you seem to do these things from time to time.....jump into different areas which are not being discussed, but i have become accustomed to it but it still makes me laugh when i see it.:2razz:

Haymarket was looking at your perspective, just as you would if you were debating with a commie.
 
yes it is for you, that you would have to bring the tea party and libertarianism into this thread which has nothing to do with those two things, but instead made you feel better about yourself.

you seem to do these things from time to time.....jump into different areas which are not being discussed, but i have become accustomed to it but it still makes me laugh when i see it.:2razz:

You don't like it? :( TOUGH! :2wave: I could not care less. The reality is that almost every time we have these discussions about secession it seems the people who are the loudest supporters are also the ones who are right libertarians and share tea party sentiments.

And the mention of them is 100% appropriate and perfectly on topic. You don't like that? Again - TOUGH! :shock:
 
Haymarket was looking at your perspective, just as you would if you were debating with a commie.

Confusing him with rational thought and facts could be really hazardous for his mental health. :roll::mrgreen:
 
You don't like it? :( TOUGH! :2wave: I could not care less. The reality is that almost every time we have these discussions about secession it seems the people who are the loudest supporters are also the ones who are right libertarians and share tea party sentiments.

And the mention of them is 100% appropriate and perfectly on topic. You don't like that? Again - TOUGH! :shock:

:2razz:
 
This response from you was thoroughly covered in post 982.

Haymarket quote

"secession it seems the people who are the loudest supporters are also the ones who are right libertarians and share tea party sentiments"

translation of this......"i don't have an argument for you, so i will attack libertarianism, and talk about the tea party" [for some resason]"
 
Haymarket quote



translation of this......"i don't have an argument for you, so i will attack libertarianism, and talk about the tea party" [for some resason]"

Stating that the majority of secessionists are right libertarians and share tea party sentiments is a attack?
 
Haymarket quote



translation of this......"i don't have an argument for you, so i will attack libertarianism, and talk about the tea party" [for some resason]"

False on both counts. I presented an argument. Many times in fact. And the perspective on secession from right libertarians here and the tea party sympathizers is entirely appropriate to be discussed since they are the bulwark for defending secession.

But why oh why EB are you a proud right libertarian in declared lean but yet shy away from the real implications of that lean when it is discussed here in the context of that faux ideologies support for secession? What are you ashamed of? :roll::shock:
 
Stating that the majority of secessionists are right libertarians and share tea party sentiments is a attack?

Any truth or reality that makes them look bad is called an attack out of a knee jerk response mechanism to protect their supposed good name from being dirtied or sullied with the hard cold light of truth.
 
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