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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Here's food for thought. If there are government retirees living in the state of Texas, and Texas secedes, will these retirees still get their pensions or be cut off, unless they move to another state? Now, there are retired Americans living in foreign countries, and they still receive their pensions, so maybe the government would gladly still pay these pensions to these secessionists as well.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that's interesting... being against self determination.

    can you elaborate on why you are against it?
    As someone who condemned the idea after World War 1 said.

    "There will never be enough territory to satisfy the demands of EVERY distinct religious, ethnic, or political group"

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    In accordance with the OP hypothetical and having lived 27 years of life in Texas:



    -Within 24 hours of Texas GOP declaring secession the Hard-Blue Democrat black/Mexican lower class majorities of Houston Texas would burn the entire city down. Houston is where all of Texas's oil is refined as well as most of US's, Venezuela's and Mexico's oil refined. This would both end the Texas's economy and send the global economy into a "Super Great Depression" that would last several years at minimum. Global oil would hit $400 a barrel.

    -South Texas for thousands of miles is over 90% Mexican and is generational dark-blue Democrat and is near completely dependent, even now, on US Federal benefits. Once Texas GOP secedes South Texas would likely secede from Texas. This entire region of Texas has a visceral hatred and has for decades of Texas GOP.

    -Upon finding out that Texas GOP secessionists were actually going to secede, the Houston/Dallas oil Oligarchs would order contract killings on those key politicians. The oligarchs would never accept being ruined by Texas secessionists. These are people in downtown Houston that live in high rise apartments with millions of dollars intertwined in international markets. Their kids all fly to NYC on a whim. They go to top notch schools. They're deeply interconnected to the global jet set crowd. They stand with scotch at funeral parlors and talk of "the white trash scum" who they represent with callousness. They know exactly what will happen to their fortunes if secession is allowed. Their bought and paid for whore politicians will never even "usher in" secession. That's why this whole thread is illogical. (And I sympathize with that, your average Texan hasn't talked to these people. They haven't seen the Texas Jet Set crowd or met them. They don't realize these people are international capitalists totally tied at the hip to places like NYC, Chicago, London, Berlin. The average person in Texas simply doesn't grasp that.)



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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    How many small countries rely on BIG countries to protect them?
    I'm not really privy to any defense treaties these numerous small countries are entered into.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    As someone who condemned the idea after World War 1 said.

    "There will never be enough territory to satisfy the demands of EVERY distinct religious, ethnic, or political group"
    so not having enough land is your reason why you don't believe a people should be able to determine the government they live under?

    i guess that works in strictly utilitarian terms... it's just odd to me, as an American, to come across folks who oppose self determination.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    In accordance with the OP hypothetical and having lived 27 years of life in Texas:



    -Within 24 hours of Texas GOP declaring secession the Hard-Blue Democrat black/Mexican lower class majorities of Houston Texas would burn the entire city down. Houston is where all of Texas's oil is refined as well as most of US's, Venezuela's and Mexico's oil refined. This would both end the Texas's economy and send the global economy into a "Super Great Depression" that would last several years at minimum. Global oil would hit $400 a barrel.

    -South Texas for thousands of miles is over 90% Mexican and is generational dark-blue Democrat and is near completely dependent, even now, on US Federal benefits. Once Texas GOP secedes South Texas would likely secede from Texas. This entire region of Texas has a visceral hatred and has for decades of Texas GOP.

    -Upon finding out that Texas GOP secessionists were actually going to secede, the Houston/Dallas oil Oligarchs would order contract killings on those key politicians. The oligarchs would never accept being ruined by Texas secessionists. These are people in downtown Houston that live in high rise apartments with millions of dollars intertwined in international markets. Their kids all fly to NYC on a whim. They go to top notch schools. They're deeply interconnected to the global jet set crowd. They stand with scotch at funeral parlors and talk of "the white trash scum" who they represent with callousness. They know exactly what will happen to their fortunes if secession is allowed. Their bought and paid for whore politicians will never even "usher in" secession. That's why this whole thread is illogical. (And I sympathize with that, your average Texan hasn't talked to these people. They haven't seen the Texas Jet Set crowd or met them. They don't realize these people are international capitalists totally tied at the hip to places like NYC, Chicago, London, Berlin. The average person in Texas simply doesn't grasp that.)



    we've heard your "the sky will fall based on race and party affiliation" bull**** already...

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    we've heard your "the sky will fall based on race and party affiliation" bull**** already...
    Oh yeah didn't think you'd like that post lol

    Still pretending that Texas Democrats who hate Texas GOP would support secession eh? You never do answer that do you? Instead just ignoring that fact

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Here's food for thought. If there are government retirees living in the state of Texas, and Texas secedes, will these retirees still get their pensions or be cut off, unless they move to another state? Now, there are retired Americans living in foreign countries, and they still receive their pensions, so maybe the government would gladly still pay these pensions to these secessionists as well.
    I guess that would depend on whether or not those retirees retained their US citizenship or not.... if they were US citizens , but living in Texas, they would still get their benefits...if the chose to become Texas citizens, they be cut off.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Oh yeah didn't think you'd like that psot lol

    Still pretending that Texas Democrats who hate Texas GOP would support secession eh? You never do answer that do you? Instead just ignoring that fact
    nope, it was a stupid post...why would i like it?

    I'm not pretending anything...this is like the 3rd time you blatantly lied like that... you would best served not to get the reputation as a liar.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is basically folklore we all kid around about
    agreed.
    it's usually a fun discussion to have, though...once the morons get bored and go away.

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