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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    The supporters of secessions notions that "The US would allow one of its largest economies to leave" says it all about this entire ideas intellectual capacity.

    This hypothetical is second grade level naivety at best to how things would play out.
    ideas do not have intellectual capacity...

    here, I'll help....I'll translate your first sentence into something resembling a meaningful statement.

    the secessionist notion of "The US would allow one of its largest economies to leave" says everything about the intellectual validity of the idea of Texas seceding.

    there... that's better... it's simply an opinion, but at least it now makes sense.


    as with anyone else.. if you are incapable of entertaining the hypothetical scenario posed in the OP, you are free to take yourself, and your allegedly superior intellectual capacity, and exit the conversation.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    To understand why the answer is NO a person only has to look at Eastern Europe, the Middle East and even the European Union.

    The smaller an entity is, the more vulnerable it is to invasion and revolution, subject to the whims of MAJOR powers, and the worse off it's economy becomes.

    Why just Texas? Why not every county in Texas being it's own country? Or every town? Or what about my own house and property being my own country? Why can't I do that? Why not abolish all government and declare each person is their own country and their own nation?

    Yeah, it sounds cool to some to say the Confederates should have had their own country, arguing some zealotry zippyhead head ideological slogans - pretending then reality MUST exist consistent with it because it is so philosophically corrrect.

    It would be the coolness of Germany and Japan winning WWII cool or, if not, the USSR having come to dominate the world.

    Historically, for thousands of years, none federalized regions were militarily defeated and, often, totally erased from history's future. EMPIRES can last a long time. Tiny countries do not.
    there's lots of very small countries that would like to have a word with you...

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    Ok. Thanks for reply. I guess the tension between federal rights and state rights is an enduring one, and from what I know, it would not be possible for one state to claim or be ceded more autonomy than other states.

    I suppose I compare the situation with the EU where age-old sovereign nation states are being pushed down the road of rapid convergence, despite huge differences in culture, language, economic maturity and political systems. That said, who dares wins - if Texans want independence, then good luck to them.
    there's a small contingent of Texans who would like their independence... but there's no solid popular movement towards that end...this is primarily an academic exercise, a hypothetical.

    I'll argue on the side of Texas secession ( more accurately, their right to secede), but if it somehow came to an actual vote today, I'd vote no....there exists nothing , in my opinion, that would necessitate secession at this time.
    for all of the issue we deal with, Texas still benefits the union, and the union still benefits Texas.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    so Texans don't want to be Americans anymore.......that says a mouthful right there confederate tea party.....lol no the feds are not going to give up any real estate sorry
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    so Texans don't want to be Americans anymore.......that says a mouthful right there confederate tea party.....lol
    read OP...read discussion.... then comment....

    you'll look less like a fool.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    so Texans don't want to be Americans anymore.......that says a mouthful right there confederate tea party.....lol no the feds are not going to give up any real estate sorry
    5th gen Texan here and I think the whole succession thing is BS.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    I'm against self determination.

    At any rate the U.S. Civil War settled this matter through the only currency that ultimately matters.

    Blood.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    im sorry there are more whites on welfare than blacks we are only 12 percent of the country and 85 percent of us work....do the math...that was a sad thing to say..but what do we expect from some people .......but I will tell you something if texas left the u.s. the blacks would leave texas if they had to walk...that's one way to get rid of us....lol... http://www.dol.gov/_Sec/media/reports/blacklaborforce/
    Last edited by plutonium; 05-01-15 at 03:15 PM.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    im sorry there are more whites on welfare than blacks we are only 12 percent of the country and 85 percent of us work....do the math...that was a sad thing to say..but what do we expect from some people
    wtf?... .

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    I'm against self determination.

    At any rate the U.S. Civil War settled this matter through the only currency that ultimately matters.

    Blood.
    that's interesting... being against self determination.

    can you elaborate on why you are against it?

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