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Thread: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    A) as redress pointed out its only a few vocal nut cases that want to secede, the vast majority of Texans pay the idea no mind

    B) there is no legal right to secede.
    Wrong, their is, Their is nation in the Constitution which forbids it.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Because it would certainly have an impact on the rest of the nation. If it were a smaller state that had less economic pull, then it would be far less complicated. Again, this is all hypothetical.
    Not our problem.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    No, we can, see Article One Section Eight.
    Are you talking about the part where Congress is granted the power to suppress insurrection?
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    B) there is no legal right to secede.
    Actually, I believe Texas V White established that succession is possible if the seceding state can obtain the permission of the rest of the states.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    And what if both are taken away via the outcome of elections?
    id call bull**** on the bastards that want to rip apart my country because the person they wanted to win lost

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    That does seem to be the official line for the last 150 years. That official line of course aligns the US with the most repressive regimes in the world (although only on this specific issue of national self-determination).
    No, actually it fits right in with the majority of countries, which would not allow pieces of their country to simply break into an independent country on their own at random. Especially not pieces that were not acquired by force or coercion, but simply agreed to be part of the country.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, actually it fits right in with the majority of countries, which would not allow pieces of their country to simply break into an independent country on their own at random. Especially not pieces that were not acquired by force or coercion, but simply agreed to be part of the country.
    This is the traditional theory that the integrity of a State's borders are more important than minor concepts such as freedom, self-determination and democracy.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    This is the traditional theory that the integrity of a State's borders are more important than minor concepts such as freedom, self-determination and democracy.
    not sure you can protect democracy by letting people leave the country every time they don't like how the vote goes

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    not sure you can protect democracy by letting people leave the country every time they don't like how the vote goes
    That is not what this is about.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    This is the traditional theory that the integrity of a State's borders are more important than minor concepts such as freedom, self-determination and democracy.
    Texas has all these things. There are a few very vocal groups in Texas who simply whine about not getting what they want during elections, which is hilarious since they do a lot of crap in Texas that many people in the other states find absolutely stupid, abhorrent, or just shake their heads over. This tells me that they have plenty of self determination and those whining otherwise are more like little kids or teenagers with a mindset that if they didn't have their parents around, their lives would be so much better.
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