View Poll Results: Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    To leave America, you generally must prove 5 years of U.S. tax compliance. If you have a net worth greater than $2 million or average annual net income tax for the 5 previous years of $157,000 or more for 2014 (that’s tax, not income), you pay an exit tax. It is a capital gain tax as if you sold your property when you left. At least there’s an exemption of $680,000 for 2014. Long-term residents giving up a Green Card can be required to pay the tax too.

    Now, the State Department interim rule just raised the fee for renunciation of U.S. citizenship to $2,350 from $450. Critics note that it’s more than twenty times the average level in other high-income countries. The State Department says it’s about demand on their services and all the extra workload they have to process people who are on their way out.

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    The expatriation tax provisions under Internal Revenue Code (IRC) sections 877 and 877A apply to US citizens who have renounced their citizenship and long-term residents (as defined in IRC 877(e)) who have ended their US resident status for federal tax purposes. Different rules apply according to the date upon which you expatriated.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    thats not the point.....the point you made in your original statement was to the effect people could just exit an open door from the US,
    and they cannot because they have to pay to exit
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    Not my problem and they'll get zero sympathy from me.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Not my problem and they'll get zero sympathy from me.
    its not your problem, but its also not an open door to exit as you made it out to me...


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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    its not your problem, but
    its also not an open door to exit as you made it out to me...


    The door is wide open but you have to pay before you pass through it.

    Did anyone on this forum ever get a free passport?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The door is wide open but you have to pay before you pass through it.

    Did anyone on this forum ever get a free passport?
    they can pass though it, however it not a simple process of packing your bags and hitting the road.......so when people[not saying you] say "don't like it, leave"...its not that simple


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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Says me. It is a value judgment. An opinion. Hence my use of the word "should" in my sentence.
    You're certainly welcome to your opinion but nobody but you has to take any value in it. It only becomes worthwhile when you can rationally justify it for others.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    they can pass though it, however it not a simple process of packing your bags and hitting the road.......so when people[not saying you] say "don't like it, leave"...its not that simple


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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this would only be an assumption.....

    the u.s. government would have to come in and take over the state by marshal law, and subdue the people, and maybe even kill, which would not be good go them because others all different states would rally against the government, and they would have to act against all states, this would bring in a already small tired military, which part of the military is not going to obey the federal government.
    You mean it could cause some sort of, let's see, what's that called? Oh yeah. Civil War. How well did that work out before for those states trying to leave?
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    BS, why should the US government pay the costs involved for those who want to leave the USA? There's no such thing as a free lunch.
    i'm fine with a 10 dollar processing fee....but even that is unnecessary, as the state dept is already funded by taxes.

    none of that has any bearing on the stupidity of the "love it or leave it" argument, nor the hatred behind it.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The door is wide open but you have to pay before you pass through it.

    Did anyone on this forum ever get a free passport?
    yeah.. and everyone can drive a Mercedes... but you have to pay for it first.

    my passport cost 2 bucks.... but the fee was waived for active duty service members back then

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