View Poll Results: Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon

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Thread: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You willing to support a movement to secede?
    no i not for secession, only the ability to do it if the people would desire such a thing.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    This was settled 150 years ago when the South lost the Civil War.

    Any Texan who isn't happy in the USA can leave any time that they feel like it. The entrances to the exits are all wide open.
    ahh yes, the perennial "love it or leave it" argument.... it works for every issue imaginable.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    I believe every nation has the right to self-determination.


    Right, and the USA determined in a Civil War that ended with the South's resounding defeat that the USA would not be split up.

    We settled this on the battlefields of that war.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    I fully support the right of Texas to secede as soon as possible. After all, most Texans (those outside Austin), don't want to be Americans.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    This was settled 150 years ago when the South lost the Civil War.

    Any Texan who isn't happy in the USA can leave any time that they feel like it. The entrances to the exits are all wide open.
    this is not correct ...to leave the u.s. the government wants people to pay a tax now.

    Thousands Renounce U.S. Citizenship Hitting New Record, Not Just Over*Taxes - Forbes

    In an unfortunate record, more Americans gave up their U.S. citizenship in 2014 than ever before. The chart below shows a steep uptick, and although the numbers aren’t big in absolute terms, the trend is marked. The names of individuals who renounced their U.S. citizenship or terminated their long-term U.S. residency comes out quarterly. The published name and shame list is invariably incomplete.

    Still, it makes 2014 the highest year ever, with 3,415 total. In 2013, there were 2,999 published expatriates. That was a 221% increase. In that context, a 14% increase may not sound like much, but given the demand, the U.S. State Department raised the fee for renunciation from $450 to $2,350. That is more than twenty times the average level in other high-income countries. The State Department says it had to raise the fee given all the extra work they have to process people who are on their way out.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    no!!!

    texas might be crazy - but the kind of crazy that you're glad to have on your side if sh*t goes down

    stay in the union my friends!

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no i not for secession, only the ability to do it if the people would desire such a thing.
    But if there is say...51% of the people who want to secede...you believe that would be in your best interests?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no i not for secession, only the ability to do it if the people would desire such a thing.
    exactly...

    for me, it's a simple matter of self determination.... i'm not one to support holding people hostage to a government they have decided they do not want... even in the case I don't agree with their decision

    it's a very American principle, self determination... or least, it used to be... obviously that's not the case any longer.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    But if there is say...51% of the people who want to secede...you believe that would be in your best interests?
    if the choice was between a convention or a referendum, i would chose the latter.

    but 51% ...i myself would consider to close.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bethlehem Bill View Post
    no!!!

    texas might be crazy - but the kind of crazy that you're glad to have on your side if sh*t goes down

    stay in the union my friends!
    Texas isn't going anywhere anytime soon... no worries.


    despite all the fearmongering and posturing, this is all a hypothetical.

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