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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Texas would be the 14th largest economy in the world by GDP more then South Korea and the Netherlands.
    And the plus side for Texas is that right now they are tied with Mississippi for having the highest percentage of minmum wage workers in the country. If they are their own country they can get away with paying all of those minimum wage workers third world wages.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Gezzzzzzzzzzzus Gawd, Thrilla...is your brain so profoundly stuck in some political philosophical nonsense that you have can't think as an individual, independent of a political affiliation to make inspection of facts rather than appealing to your sycophant perspective?
    either that or i was being a smartass.. i'll leave it for you to decide which is was...

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I can see Mexico taking back what was once theirs if that happens.
    I would be happy if they took California back.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You realize that the Supreme Court denied that the Southern States who CLAIMED that they seceded...was merely a temporary suspension of the rights held by those states while it engaged in war against the US? It other words the SC denied the secession being legal.
    yes.. i'm fully aware.... this might come as a surprise to you, but most people you talk to are not as stupid as you believe them to be deep down in your bones.

    as I said, we're getting ahead of ourselves.....
    your claims of sanctions/restrictions would be moot in the case of an unsuccessful secession.... what you are actually talking about is war, nothing less.
    even touching on the notions of supporting infrastructure would be moot.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Are you aware that Vermont attempted to secede? That's been going on for years. So are...NADA!

    Are you willing to move to a state that actually is able to secede?

    we are a union....why are you worrying about other states ..oh by the way i am a texan born and raised
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    And the plus side for Texas is that right now they are tied with Mississippi for having the highest percentage of minmum wage workers in the country. If they are their own country they can get away with paying all of those minimum wage workers third world wages.
    this i don't understand...who cares...would they be violating the rights of their Citizens,.... should be the concern
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    we are a union....why are you worrying about other states ..oh by the way i am a texan born and raised
    You willing to support a movement to secede?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I never said it did...I am talking hypothetical.
    I won't ever support such a movement in Texas. I was born and raised here - and I'm no spring rooster. I think the consequences would be dire in not too many years following it seceding.

    But quite a few Vermont has been aggressively seeking to secede for over a decade to no avail. Guess we can follow along with its progress or lack of progress. There's been about 10 states over the past decade that has grassroot organizations pushing for their respective states to secede.

    "We'll see", said the blind man to his deaf brother. I'm betting none of these efforts will ever happen.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    This was settled 150 years ago when the South lost the Civil War.

    Any Texan who isn't happy in the USA can leave any time that they feel like it. The entrances to the exits are all wide open.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yes.. i'm fully aware.... this might come as a surprise to you, but most people you talk to are not as stupid as you believe them to be deep down in your bones.

    as I said, we're getting ahead of ourselves.....
    your claims of sanctions/restrictions would be moot in the case of an unsuccessful secession.... what you are actually talking about is war, nothing less.
    even touching on the notions of supporting infrastructure would be moot.
    What I'm simply saying is....

    IF there was a legal means to secede, sanctions by the U.S. "alone" would do the job. No military actions would be necessary.

    But if we were talking war. An all out war in every urban and rural area in Texas. We both know what that would look like. It would be devastating, to say the least. That wouldn't happen. There's not that many anti-government rednecks in Texas to pull it off. The collateral damage would be immense. Texas couldn't defend itself against such actions "successfully" IN MY OPINION.

    And if that was the case - yes, every point discussed in this thread would indeed be moot.

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