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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It would be the final nail in the coffin for the Republican party on a national level. There is no chance of winning a Presidential election if they don't have Texas.
    that's definitely cause for concern.

    not that Texans should be concerned about the political parties in their former country.. but when one of those parties is chock full of people with a strong dislike of self determination, they should be concerned about an impending invasion and recapturing of the wayward state.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Yes, like which countries SPECIFICALLY? Let's compare their current state of sovereignty with Texas'.

    Texas would be the 14th largest economy in the world by GDP more then South Korea and the Netherlands.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    It doesn't matter. The complexities of our state's infrastructure depends on its Federal Government ties.
    it doesn't inherently depend on federal government ties... nor does secession necessarily negate such ties.

    severing political affiliation doesn't mean the 2 nations would be bound to ignore each other...

    Texas is rich in resources.. no doubt about it... .far richer than most other nations, even many western nations such as norway, sweden, finland, the UK, etc...

    Texas isn't special in this regards.. hell, California could make in on their own, Alaska, Hawaii.. maybe even NY... possibly Florida.
    south dakota is pretty much screwed though

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Texas would be the 14th largest economy in the world by GDP more then South Korea and the Netherlands.
    No, Texas would wind up being another suffering nation like North Korea. It's resources aren't inexhaustible and it relies and a much needed financial networks within the U.S. Texas' infrastructure, you know, things like its education system, it's military, its health care system WOULD COLLAPSE!

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it doesn't inherently depend on federal government ties... nor does secession necessarily negate such ties.

    severing political affiliation doesn't mean the 2 nations would be bound to ignore each other...

    Texas is rich in resources.. no doubt about it... .far richer than most other nations, even many western nations such as norway, sweden, finland, the UK, etc...

    Texas isn't special in this regards.. hell, California could make in on their own, Alaska, Hawaii.. maybe even NY... possibly Florida.
    south dakota is pretty much screwed though
    Yes, it does rely - it is an interdependent state.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So many of you talk about the law. The law is totally irrelevant here.

    So if 100% of Texans voted to leave America, some of you would be against it because it is against the law? That is ridiculous. The will of the vast majority has to take preference over the law.

    If all you care about is the law, then I suppose you support a law that cuts off people's hands for shoplifting...assuming it is already on the books? Or do you just support laws you like?

    The law is not there to restrict the will of the people. And if it is - then it is a bad law and should be ignored. And if the will of the vast majority of ANY region is to leave America, they should be allowed to do it. The only stipulation would be that they take their share of the national debt on a per capita basis. Otherwise, Bon voyage.

    Once you start forcing people to stay in a country against their will, then you are the Soviet Union on that score.

    As far as I am concerned, if 50%+1 Texans want to leave America and agree to take their share of the national debt with them...they should be allowed to leave; and I don't even begin to care if the Constitution says they can't.
    As a native Texan for decades...I can assure you that there will never a consensus of Texas citizens that would constitute "the will of the people".

    The consequences of leaving the Union would be profound and in the end, be dire. When one makes a serious inventory of what resources would be required to become an independent state/nation - even with all of the natural resources in Texas - they simply aren't enough to deal with all of the social issues, which Texas relies on Federal assistance.

    The United States would have Texas on its knees - by imposing sanctions of all types that would, within a relevantly short time, virtually paralyze the Texas government. No state, including Texas is a rich enough in resources or treasure to defy the United States, which "some consider the world's most powerful country". Now that claim is debatable, but still a very significant power.

    Call the US a totalitarian government, but the states are interdependent upon each other.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    No, Texas would wind up being another suffering nation like North Korea. It's resources aren't inexhaustible and it relies and a much needed financial networks within the U.S. Texas' infrastructure, you know, things like its education system, it's military, its health care system WOULD COLLAPSE!
    that would only be your opinion

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Texas would be the 14th largest economy in the world by GDP more then South Korea and the Netherlands.
    according to wiki, you got their ranking correct.. but the Netherlands ( ranked 18)GDP is about half of Texas's state GDP(.... wiki puts them between spain and mexico... though these are 2012 rankings.

    Cali, if it were to secede, would be ranked 10th..Texas 14th

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    No, Texas would wind up being another suffering nation like North Korea. It's resources aren't inexhaustible and it relies and a much needed financial networks within the U.S. Texas' infrastructure, you know, things like its education system, it's military, its health care system WOULD COLLAPSE!
    well, that escalated quickly.


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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post

    Call the US a totalitarian government, but the states are interdependent upon each other.
    not true.... since we have federalism a separation of powers, the states all have an Infrastructure in place to keep order.... along with a tax system.

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