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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I support the right for Texans to secede, they can all just walk south into the Gulf of Mexico. The land, however, and most things on it belong to the United States, they are not free to take it with them. Their personal belongings are theirs. The land, the infrastructure, etc. are not.
    Yeah, 30 million Texans, including 2 of the top 5 metro areas in the United Stares, and 52 Fortune 500 companies are just gonna walk in to the Gulf of Mexico because some guy in California says so. Lol.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    If someone wants to leave then they can. No one is stopping them , but taking the public roads hospitals and schools which the US government has helped created is not going to happen.

    I cant speculate exactly what would happen only just that something will . War to even an embargo or it may never even get recognized as a country by the US or other nations.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    There's no right to secession, no.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    If someone wants to leave then they can. No one is stopping them , but taking the public roads hospitals and schools which the US government has helped created is not going to happen.

    I cant speculate exactly what would happen only just that something will . War to even an embargo or it may never even get recognized as a country by the US or other nations.
    Would Texas get proportionate ownership in public roads and hospitals located in the other 50 states then?

    Seems to me Texas has paid in proportionally to have those facilities built, so the simplest solution would be to let Texas annex the utilities located within the state while giving up claims to those located outside her borders

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Would Texas get proportionate ownership in public roads and hospitals located in the other 50 states then?

    Seems to me Texas has paid in proportionally to have those facilities built, so the simplest solution would be to let Texas annex the utilities located within the state while giving up claims to those located outside her borders

    Actually no. Texas used the infrastructures they paid for at that time and are in no way obligated to them in the future if they aren't in the union paying the taxes that had built and kept them running
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Then you're helping us secede. And Texas doesn't need federal subsidies, we're a wealthy state
    Your farms receive the most in subsidies in all of America
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Actually no. Texas used the infrastructures they paid for at that time and are in no way obligated to them in the future if they aren't in the union paying the taxes that had built and kept them running
    The Federal Government would no longer be financially responsible for their upkeep, that would be paid for by Texas going forward.

    Texans, in aggregate, have paid in to the federal fund pool as much as they have benefitted from it, so there would be nothing owed to Texans by the U.S. Govt or vice versa.

    A more interesting question would be what to do with Federal property that could not be annexed, such as NASA in Houston. I would imagine that Texas would be amicable toward allowing NASA to continue to operate within her borders, much as CERN operates within Swiss borders while belonging largely to the EU (of which Switzerland is not a member).

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what i am saying is this....i gave the founders words, and what was taught, and it is not what the court is saying.

    Now when it comes to the constitution, who is closer to it ...the court or the founders?

    iam not advocating anything like seccesion...what i advocate for is .....rights.......which is always the center of my arugment.
    Fair enough - I understand & respect your opinion.

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    Unfortunately, with our country's political system having morphed into a two-party system, we don't get much more Presidential choice then two party-line candidates who differentiate by little more than what they promise their followers (think: Bush-Clinton Monarchy redux) - and our SC reflects this.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Your farms receive the most in subsidies in all of America
    One less thing you'd have to pay for, then!

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    For everyone's reference....the population and economic size of Texas is roughly equal to that of Canada.

    That should assuage any fears or concerns that Texas would not be able to function on its own as an independent nation.

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